Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1755947AbXFNRwq (ORCPT ); Thu, 14 Jun 2007 13:52:46 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1752868AbXFNRwh (ORCPT ); Thu, 14 Jun 2007 13:52:37 -0400 Received: from zcars04f.nortel.com ([47.129.242.57]:64542 "EHLO zcars04f.nortel.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750862AbXFNRwg (ORCPT ); Thu, 14 Jun 2007 13:52:36 -0400 Message-ID: <46718044.1040108@nortel.com> Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 11:52:04 -0600 From: "Chris Friesen" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2-6 (X11/20050513) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alexandre Oliva CC: Ingo Molnar , Alan Cox , Daniel Hazelton , Linus Torvalds , Greg KH , debian developer , david@lang.hm, Tarkan Erimer , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Andrew Morton Subject: Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3 References: <466A3EC6.6030706@netone.net.tr> <200706132121.04532.dhazelton@enter.net> <200706132304.21984.dhazelton@enter.net> <20070614112329.3645c397@the-village.bc.nu> <20070614103846.GA7902@elte.hu> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Jun 2007 17:52:08.0162 (UTC) FILETIME=[BA018C20:01C7AEAC] Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1194 Lines: 31 Alexandre Oliva wrote: > But see, I'm not talking about getting permission to hack the > hardware. I'm only talking about getting permission to hack the Free > Software in it. No you're not...you're talking about being able to hack the software *and load it back onto the original hardware*. > It's your position that mingles the issues and permits people to use > the hardware to deprive users of freedom over the software that > they're entitled to have. The software license controls the software. If the hardware has restrictions on it that limit what software it will run, then that is unrelated to the software license. There is nothing stopping you from taking the code for the tivo, modifying it, distributing it, or even running it on other hardware. Suppose I had some machine that will only run microsoft-signed binaries. Would it be at all related to any software license that this machine won't let me run linux? Chris - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/