Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753415AbXFNTLE (ORCPT ); Thu, 14 Jun 2007 15:11:04 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751493AbXFNTKy (ORCPT ); Thu, 14 Jun 2007 15:10:54 -0400 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([66.187.233.31]:39636 "EHLO mx1.redhat.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751245AbXFNTKy (ORCPT ); Thu, 14 Jun 2007 15:10:54 -0400 To: Bron Gondwana Cc: Alan Cox , Chris Adams , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3 References: <20070614013214.GA1124293@hiwaay.net> <20070614025248.6e0f72f0@the-village.bc.nu> <20070614041041.GA6788@brong.net> <20070614070006.GA7393@brong.net> <20070614181626.GF3522@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> From: Alexandre Oliva Organization: Red Hat OS Tools Group Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 15:25:43 -0300 In-Reply-To: <20070614181626.GF3522@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> (Bill Nottingham's message of "Thu\, 14 Jun 2007 14\:16\:26 -0400") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.990 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1645 Lines: 36 On Jun 14, 2007, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Alexandre Oliva (aoliva@redhat.com) said: >> > Sure, if they make any changes or fixes to Linux. Other than that, >> > only the same benefit that Microsoft get from Windows piracy - TiVo >> > employees become familiar with Linux and are more likely to use it >> > and maybe contribute more in another job later. >> >> Now, what if TiVO actually permitted all of its customers to make >> changes or fixes to Linux, and become familiar with it and become more >> likely to use it and maybe contribute more later? > a) there's nothing that prevents a Tivo user from changing or fixing > Linux completely outside of the Tivo But how about inside the TiVO, so as to use Linux and the rest of the GNU/Linux distro put in there for an even better DVR experience? Sure, this might still be accomplished on another hardware platform. But the TiVO already has all the hardware there, and you already have all the software ready to work on it. Except that you can't change it. You'd have to waste time and money just to get to the same status on another hardware platform. What do we gain? -- Alexandre Oliva http://www.lsd.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/ FSF Latin America Board Member http://www.fsfla.org/ Red Hat Compiler Engineer aoliva@{redhat.com, gcc.gnu.org} Free Software Evangelist oliva@{lsd.ic.unicamp.br, gnu.org} - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/