Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1755446AbXFNUFn (ORCPT ); Thu, 14 Jun 2007 16:05:43 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751140AbXFNUFd (ORCPT ); Thu, 14 Jun 2007 16:05:33 -0400 Received: from smtp2.linux-foundation.org ([207.189.120.14]:32932 "EHLO smtp2.linux-foundation.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752813AbXFNUFb (ORCPT ); Thu, 14 Jun 2007 16:05:31 -0400 Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 13:03:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Linus Torvalds To: Alexandre Oliva cc: Kevin Fox , Daniel Hazelton , Lennart Sorensen , Greg KH , debian developer , "david@lang.hm" , Tarkan Erimer , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Andrew Morton , mingo@elte.hu Subject: Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <200706132042.02728.dhazelton@enter.net> <1181837191.21942.24.camel@zathras.emsl.pnl.gov> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=us-ascii Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1223 Lines: 33 On Thu, 14 Jun 2007, Alexandre Oliva wrote: > > > Only with the GPLv3. > > This is not true. The terms of the GPLv2 that say you can't impose > further restrictions on the exercise of the freedoms apply to the > software under GPLv2 and GPLv3 just the same way. The GPLv2 talks *only* about the software. You're making everything else up, and when I point out that your reading of the GPLv2 is insane, you just ignore my proofs of your internal inconsistency. > So can you please explain to me how enabling TiVO to deny others the > freedom that it received "in kind", failing to keep with the "in kind" > spirit of the GPL, encourage people to work together, and to merge? Because Tivo *IS NOT DENYING* those freedoms. Tivo *respected* the freedoms, and gave source back, and gave you all the same rights you had to Linux originally, and to their modifications. How stupid are you to not acknowledge that? Tivo limited their *hardware*, not the software. Linus - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/