Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1755111AbXFNUQR (ORCPT ); Thu, 14 Jun 2007 16:16:17 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751121AbXFNUQF (ORCPT ); Thu, 14 Jun 2007 16:16:05 -0400 Received: from smtp2.linux-foundation.org ([207.189.120.14]:42549 "EHLO smtp2.linux-foundation.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751958AbXFNUQE (ORCPT ); Thu, 14 Jun 2007 16:16:04 -0400 Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 13:15:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Linus Torvalds To: Alexandre Oliva cc: Sean , Adrian Bunk , Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu, Daniel Hazelton , Alan Cox , Greg KH , debian developer , david@lang.hm, Tarkan Erimer , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Andrew Morton , mingo@elte.hu Subject: Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <466A3EC6.6030706@netone.net.tr> <200706132140.13490.dhazelton@enter.net> <20070614020827.GO3588@stusta.de> <200706132243.14651.dhazelton@enter.net> <20070614025640.GQ3588@stusta.de> <9578.1181793617@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> <20070614152034.GS3588@stusta.de> <20070614131409.9a5800dc.seanlkml@sympatico.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=us-ascii Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1358 Lines: 36 On Thu, 14 Jun 2007, Alexandre Oliva wrote: > > Then would you consider relicensing Linux under GPLv3 + additional > permission for Tivoization? No. I'm not stupid. The GPLv3 explicitly allows removing additional permissions. So anybody who does "GPLv3 + additional permissions" is basically setting himself up for people taking those permissions away. Since the Tivo kind of permission is in my opinion a *fundamental right* (or call if "freedom" if you want), then "GPLv3 + additional permissions" simply is not a viable alternative, since anybody could just decide to make improvements and strip those permissions. The whole notion of "additional permissions" in the GPLv3 is totally pointless, since it's legally *exactly* the same as allowing dual licensing (which a license doesn't even have to spell out: you can dual-license *regardless* of the license!). The reason for the "additional permissions" is just to make the LGPL go away, and become a sub-clause of the GPLv3. If you really thought anything else, you're just uninformed and stupid, and didn't think things through. Linus - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/