Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754788AbXFNUrb (ORCPT ); Thu, 14 Jun 2007 16:47:31 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751570AbXFNUrY (ORCPT ); Thu, 14 Jun 2007 16:47:24 -0400 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([66.187.233.31]:54390 "EHLO mx1.redhat.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751495AbXFNUrX (ORCPT ); Thu, 14 Jun 2007 16:47:23 -0400 To: Sam Ravnborg Cc: Linus Torvalds , Sean , Adrian Bunk , Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu, Daniel Hazelton , Alan Cox , Greg KH , debian developer , david@lang.hm, Tarkan Erimer , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Andrew Morton , mingo@elte.hu Subject: Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3 References: <200706132243.14651.dhazelton@enter.net> <20070614025640.GQ3588@stusta.de> <9578.1181793617@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> <20070614152034.GS3588@stusta.de> <20070614131409.9a5800dc.seanlkml@sympatico.ca> <20070614195504.GA2258@uranus.ravnborg.org> From: Alexandre Oliva Organization: Red Hat OS Tools Group Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 17:42:44 -0300 In-Reply-To: <20070614195504.GA2258@uranus.ravnborg.org> (Sam Ravnborg's message of "Thu\, 14 Jun 2007 21\:55\:04 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.990 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1617 Lines: 39 On Jun 14, 2007, Sam Ravnborg wrote: > On Thu, Jun 14, 2007 at 04:46:36PM -0300, Alexandre Oliva wrote: >> > Giving back "in kind" is obvious. I give you source code to do with as you >> > see fit. I just expect you to give back in kind: source code for me to do >> > with as I see fit, under the same license I gave you source code. >> >> > How hard is that to accept? >> >> Forgive me if I find this a bit hard, because that's *not* what the >> GPL says. > What part of the word "expect" did you not understand? http://lkml.org/lkml/2006/9/24/246 It asks everybody - regardless of circumstance - for the same thing. It asks for the effort that was put into improving the software to be given back to the common good. You can use the end result any way you want (and if you want to use it for "bad" things, be my guest), but we ask the same exact thing of everybody - give your modifications back. > And whats your point here anyway? The the GPL doesn't do that. It encourages that. But what it asks for is respect for the freedoms it defends WRT the software licensed under it. -- Alexandre Oliva http://www.lsd.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/ FSF Latin America Board Member http://www.fsfla.org/ Red Hat Compiler Engineer aoliva@{redhat.com, gcc.gnu.org} Free Software Evangelist oliva@{lsd.ic.unicamp.br, gnu.org} - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/