Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1755528AbXFNV1y (ORCPT ); Thu, 14 Jun 2007 17:27:54 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751188AbXFNV1r (ORCPT ); Thu, 14 Jun 2007 17:27:47 -0400 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([66.187.233.31]:48618 "EHLO mx1.redhat.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750890AbXFNV1q (ORCPT ); Thu, 14 Jun 2007 17:27:46 -0400 To: Daniel Hazelton Cc: Paul Mundt , Linus Torvalds , Lennart Sorensen , Greg KH , debian developer , "david\@lang.hm" , Tarkan Erimer , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Andrew Morton , mingo@elte.hu Subject: Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3 References: <20070614073232.GB22543@linux-sh.org> <200706141617.46734.dhazelton@enter.net> From: Alexandre Oliva Organization: Red Hat OS Tools Group Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 18:27:27 -0300 In-Reply-To: <200706141617.46734.dhazelton@enter.net> (Daniel Hazelton's message of "Thu\, 14 Jun 2007 16\:17\:46 -0400") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.990 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1703 Lines: 43 On Jun 14, 2007, Daniel Hazelton wrote: > > And the companies that produce devices that come with Linux and/or > other GPL'd software installed and place limits such that only > people that have purchased that hardware have access to the > "modified" source running on the device are following the letter, > and the spirit, of the GPL. WAIT, WAIT, THAT'S... :-) > Before you start yelling I'm wrong, think about it this way: they > make the source available to the people that they've given binary > versions to, and there is nothing stopping one of those people from > making the source available to the rest of the world. The *only* in your sentence betrayed you. If they place the limits such that nobody else can access the sources, they're in violation of the license. If they merely refrain from distributing the sources to others, but still enable the recipients to do so, this is not a violation of the license. But then IANAL. > *AND* the GPL has never been about making the source available to > everyone - just to those that get the binaries. Exactly. Not even to the upstream distributor. That's where Linus' theory of tit-for-tat falls apart. -- Alexandre Oliva http://www.lsd.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/ FSF Latin America Board Member http://www.fsfla.org/ Red Hat Compiler Engineer aoliva@{redhat.com, gcc.gnu.org} Free Software Evangelist oliva@{lsd.ic.unicamp.br, gnu.org} - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/