Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1758180AbXFNXk3 (ORCPT ); Thu, 14 Jun 2007 19:40:29 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1754578AbXFNXkW (ORCPT ); Thu, 14 Jun 2007 19:40:22 -0400 Received: from outpipe-village-512-1.bc.nu ([81.2.110.250]:49504 "EHLO the-village.bc.nu" rhost-flags-OK-FAIL-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753236AbXFNXkV (ORCPT ); Thu, 14 Jun 2007 19:40:21 -0400 Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 00:45:13 +0100 From: Alan Cox To: "Jesper Juhl" Cc: "Alexandre Oliva" , "Daniel Hazelton" , "Chris Friesen" , "Ingo Molnar" , "Linus Torvalds" , "Greg KH" , "debian developer" , david@lang.hm, "Tarkan Erimer" , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, "Andrew Morton" Subject: Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3 Message-ID: <20070615004513.6816e04b@the-village.bc.nu> In-Reply-To: <9a8748490706141618t58082edctd4c166b82eddee97@mail.gmail.com> References: <466A3EC6.6030706@netone.net.tr> <46718044.1040108@nortel.com> <200706141848.55378.dhazelton@enter.net> <9a8748490706141618t58082edctd4c166b82eddee97@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.9.1 (GTK+ 2.10.8; i386-redhat-linux-gnu) Organization: Red Hat UK Cyf., Amberley Place, 107-111 Peascod Street, Windsor, Berkshire, SL4 1TE, Y Deyrnas Gyfunol. Cofrestrwyd yng Nghymru a Lloegr o'r rhif cofrestru 3798903 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1441 Lines: 34 > Why can't you understand that the GPL v2 is a *software* license, it > doesn't cover hardware at all. The GPLv2 is a copyright license not a software licence, indeed there is no such thing as a 'software licence'. It deals with the circumstances and manner in which you are permitted (by the author) to make copies of their work, to modify their work and in some cases to perform their work (plus other sundry rights). Copyright law doesn't care whether the object in question is as abstract as computer source code (providing it has been 'fixated' in some form) or a two hundred foot high art installation - or a combination of the two. So irrespective of the whole pointless debate going on you are trying to draw lines that don't exist in the first place. > I can't know for a fact what TiVO wants, but I can guess. You could also do your research. > All quite valid reasons in my opinion. and all wrong. Look up the owning and controlling interests in Tivo and you'll find the correct reason - stopping you doing evil things like keeping movies you've recorded or uploading them to the internet [which ironically of course is the entire effect of the whole 'convergence' thing] Alan - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/