Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752237AbXFOBXJ (ORCPT ); Thu, 14 Jun 2007 21:23:09 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751097AbXFOBW5 (ORCPT ); Thu, 14 Jun 2007 21:22:57 -0400 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([66.187.233.31]:34194 "EHLO mx1.redhat.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751137AbXFOBW5 (ORCPT ); Thu, 14 Jun 2007 21:22:57 -0400 To: Bongani Hlope Cc: Lennart Sorensen , Linus Torvalds , Greg KH , debian developer , "david\@lang.hm" , Tarkan Erimer , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Andrew Morton , mingo@elte.hu Subject: Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3 References: <20070614175305.GI10008@csclub.uwaterloo.ca> <200706150058.24324.bonganilinux@mweb.co.za> From: Alexandre Oliva Organization: Red Hat OS Tools Group Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 22:22:19 -0300 In-Reply-To: <200706150058.24324.bonganilinux@mweb.co.za> (Bongani Hlope's message of "Fri\, 15 Jun 2007 00\:58\:23 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.990 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1680 Lines: 44 On Jun 14, 2007, Bongani Hlope wrote: > On Thursday 14 June 2007 21:32:08 Alexandre Oliva wrote: >> On Jun 14, 2007, lsorense@csclub.uwaterloo.ca (Lennart Sorensen) wrote: >> > They let you have the code and make changes to it, >> >> Not to the software installed in the device. > So now you want access to all the software that is installed in > their device? What's under the GPL. > If you buy one of Google's Search Appliance, are you expecting to > allow you to make changes to the software that is installed on that > device? Arguably, if I purchased the device, I ought to be entitled to make changes to it, yes. But that's a distraction I'd rather not get into ATM. > They then make the all the changes to the Linux Kernel available to > their end users under the same terms that they got from the Linux > kernel developers. > What freedom did they take away? They prevent the user from installing and running modified versions of the program on the box, while they can still do it themselves on the same box. I guess I must have repeated this at least a dozen times in this thread, so I'll just refrain from repeating this point from now on. -- Alexandre Oliva http://www.lsd.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/ FSF Latin America Board Member http://www.fsfla.org/ Red Hat Compiler Engineer aoliva@{redhat.com, gcc.gnu.org} Free Software Evangelist oliva@{lsd.ic.unicamp.br, gnu.org} - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/