Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1757050AbXFODXT (ORCPT ); Thu, 14 Jun 2007 23:23:19 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751981AbXFODXM (ORCPT ); Thu, 14 Jun 2007 23:23:12 -0400 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([66.187.233.31]:34094 "EHLO mx1.redhat.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752176AbXFODXK (ORCPT ); Thu, 14 Jun 2007 23:23:10 -0400 To: Daniel Hazelton Cc: "Chris Friesen" , Paul Mundt , Linus Torvalds , Lennart Sorensen , Greg KH , debian developer , "david\@lang.hm" , Tarkan Erimer , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Andrew Morton , mingo@elte.hu Subject: Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3 References: <4671B734.1040401@nortel.com> <200706142155.34298.dhazelton@enter.net> From: Alexandre Oliva Organization: Red Hat OS Tools Group Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 00:22:48 -0300 In-Reply-To: <200706142155.34298.dhazelton@enter.net> (Daniel Hazelton's message of "Thu\, 14 Jun 2007 21\:55\:33 -0400") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.990 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1294 Lines: 31 On Jun 14, 2007, Daniel Hazelton wrote: > Faulty logic. The hardware doesn't *restrict* you from *MODIFYING* > any fscking thing. Ok, lemme try again: case 2'': tivo provides source, end user tries to improve it, realizes the hardware won't let him use the result of his efforts, and gives up > On Thursday 14 June 2007 18:45:07 Alexandre Oliva wrote: >> Where's the payback, or the payforward? >> >> And then, tit-for-tat is about equivalent retaliation, an eye for an >> eye. Where's the retaliation here? >> >> If GPLv2 were tit-for-tat, if someone invents artifices to prevent the >> user from making the changes the user wants on the software, wouldn't >> it be "equivalent retaliation" to prevent the perpetrator from making >> the changes it wants on the software? -- Alexandre Oliva http://www.lsd.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/ FSF Latin America Board Member http://www.fsfla.org/ Red Hat Compiler Engineer aoliva@{redhat.com, gcc.gnu.org} Free Software Evangelist oliva@{lsd.ic.unicamp.br, gnu.org} - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/