Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1755547AbXFOEEj (ORCPT ); Fri, 15 Jun 2007 00:04:39 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1750730AbXFOEEa (ORCPT ); Fri, 15 Jun 2007 00:04:30 -0400 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([66.187.233.31]:41340 "EHLO mx1.redhat.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750729AbXFOEEa (ORCPT ); Fri, 15 Jun 2007 00:04:30 -0400 To: Linus Torvalds Cc: Rob Landley , Bernd Paysan , Alan Milnes , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3 References: <466A3EC6.6030706@netone.net.tr> <200706141744.08408.bernd.paysan@gmx.de> <200706141917.58824.rob@landley.net> From: Alexandre Oliva Organization: Red Hat OS Tools Group Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 01:04:06 -0300 In-Reply-To: (Linus Torvalds's message of "Thu\, 14 Jun 2007 20\:34\:09 -0700 \(PDT\)") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.990 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1473 Lines: 36 On Jun 15, 2007, Linus Torvalds wrote: > On Fri, 15 Jun 2007, Alexandre Oliva wrote: >> >> Yes. They'd have to give up the ability to update the software, or >> pass it on to the user. If they can't do the latter, they could still >> do the former. How bad would this be for them, do you know? > In other words, you advocate license for technical programs that causes > people to make bad technical choices? I do place ethical issues over technical ones, if that's what you're asking. And then, why should the vendor have any say on the software that runs on the hardware I purchased from them, after the purchase? Heck, I'd feel *safer* if I knew they couldn't modify the code in my box without my permission. Do you support WGA or the Sony Rootkit? How is this any different? But if they want to keep the ability to change the software in my box, I want that for myself as well. If for no other reason, in case they mess things up. -- Alexandre Oliva http://www.lsd.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/ FSF Latin America Board Member http://www.fsfla.org/ Red Hat Compiler Engineer aoliva@{redhat.com, gcc.gnu.org} Free Software Evangelist oliva@{lsd.ic.unicamp.br, gnu.org} - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/