Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754918AbXFOHHh (ORCPT ); Fri, 15 Jun 2007 03:07:37 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1752555AbXFOHH3 (ORCPT ); Fri, 15 Jun 2007 03:07:29 -0400 Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com ([209.85.146.182]:4904 "EHLO wa-out-1112.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752589AbXFOHH2 (ORCPT ); Fri, 15 Jun 2007 03:07:28 -0400 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ZGt1cJ2mstc88V19jMXnIK+SKwUh/nUXqHde0HpAjLYCoXdQf0QP2iSkLRr7rYcN1Y2X65lPEKCHhXCfSbgnZhBxZWQR8uJ3VOdZ+/oUZ93VigAousC2P+tEF5YRMpMp4Jf2BXkuw27q8nQ22PlBS/CwmHjQl+g1W4oGr5OexK8= Message-ID: <9a8748490706150007v71292f5drf6f4e78200eac703@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 09:07:28 +0200 From: "Jesper Juhl" To: "Alexandre Oliva" Subject: Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3 Cc: "Daniel Hazelton" , "Chris Friesen" , "Paul Mundt" , "Linus Torvalds" , "Lennart Sorensen" , "Greg KH" , "debian developer" , "david@lang.hm" , "Tarkan Erimer" , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, "Andrew Morton" , mingo@elte.hu In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <4671B734.1040401@nortel.com> <200706142155.34298.dhazelton@enter.net> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1289 Lines: 28 On 15/06/07, Alexandre Oliva wrote: > On Jun 14, 2007, Daniel Hazelton wrote: > > > Faulty logic. The hardware doesn't *restrict* you from *MODIFYING* > > any fscking thing. > > Ok, lemme try again: > > case 2'': tivo provides source, end user tries to improve it, realizes > the hardware won't let him use the result of his efforts, and gives up > So? The user still has the source and is free to use that in other GPLv2 projects, that's the point. The point is not being able to run it on any specific hardware, the point is having the source with the same rights to modify it and distribute it. And no, the right to modify your copy of the source does not also mean you *have to* be able to install it on the hardware it was originally designed for - it only means you have the right to modify it and redistribute it. -- Jesper Juhl Don't top-post http://www.catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/T/top-post.html Plain text mails only, please http://www.expita.com/nomime.html - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/