Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752727AbXFOIx1 (ORCPT ); Fri, 15 Jun 2007 04:53:27 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751312AbXFOIxU (ORCPT ); Fri, 15 Jun 2007 04:53:20 -0400 Received: from ns.firmix.at ([62.141.48.66]:58249 "EHLO ns.firmix.at" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750950AbXFOIxT (ORCPT ); Fri, 15 Jun 2007 04:53:19 -0400 Subject: Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3 From: Bernd Petrovitsch To: Alexandre Oliva Cc: Alan Cox , Chris Adams , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: References: <20070614205541.GA886803@hiwaay.net> <20070614224722.570e093b@the-village.bc.nu> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Firmix Software GmbH Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 10:53:12 +0200 Message-Id: <1181897592.22802.36.camel@tara.firmix.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.3 (2.8.3-2.fc6) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Firmix-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on ns.firmix.at X-Firmix-Spam-Score: -1.123 () AWL X-Firmix-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.123 required=5 X-Spam-Score: -1.123 () AWL X-Firmix-Envelope-From: X-Firmix-Envelope-To: Content-Disposition: inline Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1634 Lines: 39 On Thu, 2007-06-14 at 19:37 -0300, Alexandre Oliva wrote: > On Jun 14, 2007, Alan Cox wrote: [...] > > For many juridisctions loading from disk into memory is copying and in > > some from memory to CPU cache a second copy. This is one reason as I > > understand it GPLv3 talks about "conveying" - to avoid that mess and > > confusion. > > Hmm... This is interesting. Let me sidetrack a little bit. > > Who would be held liable should the copy not be authorized by the > copyright holder? The designer of the hardware? The seller? The > person who powerer the computer on? The author of the boot loader (if The person copying the software (read: the poor user) - of course with no doubt. Is the manufacturer of a knife or rifle or car or brick responsible if I kill someone with it? > I'm talking about the kernel about to be loaded). And to solve the above "legal" problem, (at least in .at) it is explicitly legal (and stated in the local law) to "copy" software for personal use as long as you don't pass it on to others. And this includes (of course) e.g. backup copies on DVDs (and remember, you are not allowed to give them away, just store them in your desk). Bernd -- Firmix Software GmbH http://www.firmix.at/ mobil: +43 664 4416156 fax: +43 1 7890849-55 Embedded Linux Development and Services - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/