Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754983AbXFOP3T (ORCPT ); Fri, 15 Jun 2007 11:29:19 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751992AbXFOP3J (ORCPT ); Fri, 15 Jun 2007 11:29:09 -0400 Received: from mx.laposte.net ([81.255.54.16]:37078 "EHLO mx.laposte.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752961AbXFOP3I (ORCPT ); Fri, 15 Jun 2007 11:29:08 -0400 Message-ID: <18981.192.54.193.51.1181912920.squirrel@rousalka.dyndns.org> Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 15:08:40 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3 From: "Nicolas Mailhot" To: "Ingo Molnar" Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.10a-1.fc7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1272 Lines: 36 Ingo Molnar wrote: * Alexandre Oliva wrote: >> > Do they have to provide a ROM burner if the ROM is socketed rather >> > than soldered into place? > >> Of course not. They just can't impose restrictions on your obtaining >> a ROM burner and doing the work yourself. > do you realize that you have just admitted that the Tivo is perfectly > fine and legal? > because you can solder off the ROM from the Tivo and can put in a new > ROM with another bootloader that does not check the SHA1 key. Nope. ROM alone is not the problem The problem is that in this particular case, removing a ROM used to vet software makes you liable under DMCA and friends That's why something that could be tolerated in GPLv2 time before the new IP world order can not be tolerated anymore. DRM is not deadly because of the technical measures but the legal ones GPLv3 is not there to change the technical equation but the legal equation. Blame the change on IP law apprentice sorcerers, not the on FSF -- Nicolas Mailhot - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/