Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1757242AbXFOQTQ (ORCPT ); Fri, 15 Jun 2007 12:19:16 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1755886AbXFOQSt (ORCPT ); Fri, 15 Jun 2007 12:18:49 -0400 Received: from 24-75-174-210-st.chvlva.adelphia.net ([24.75.174.210]:35441 "EHLO sanosuke.troilus.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1755684AbXFOQSs (ORCPT ); Fri, 15 Jun 2007 12:18:48 -0400 To: Florin Malita Cc: Ingo Molnar , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3 References: <200706142246.57583.dhazelton@enter.net> <878xal2a0q.fsf@graviton.dyn.troilus.org> <200706150127.18069.dhazelton@enter.net> <87sl8tzaj1.fsf@graviton.dyn.troilus.org> <20070615124039.GB21120@elte.hu> <87fy4tz8dc.fsf@graviton.dyn.troilus.org> <20070615143003.GA8775@elte.hu> <87zm31xo3q.fsf@graviton.dyn.troilus.org> <4672B5F6.706@gmail.com> From: Michael Poole Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 12:18:47 -0400 In-Reply-To: <4672B5F6.706@gmail.com> (Florin Malita's message of "Fri\, 15 Jun 2007 11\:53\:26 -0400") Message-ID: <87r6odxkbc.fsf@graviton.dyn.troilus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1843 Lines: 40 Florin Malita writes: > On 06/15/2007 10:56 AM, Michael Poole wrote: >> The GPL cares about the key >> used to generate an integral part of the executable form of the GPLed >> work. > > GLPv2 doesn't: why do you think the digital signature is an integral > part of the executable? It can be a totally separate blob, distributed > via a separate channel and even stored at a different location than > the executable. Does it still look like an integral part of the > executable to you then? Yes. If I cut a book in half and store the halves separately, does the second half become an independent work? The integral-ness is a function of how the thing is created and how it functions, not how it is stored. If you need part B for part A to execute as intended, then part A is not a complete work in itself. On top of this, in the Tivo case the two are distributed together, and even part of the same file. [snip] > Do you honestly believe GPLv2 requires the distributor to provide you > with the right environment for your modified copy to "function > properly"? I would say it doesn't, but feel free to point me to > specific sections which *state* otherwise. AFAICT, GPLv2 is > specifically limited to "copying, distribution and modification". How > you use (or don't use, or can't use) your modified copy is totally > outside its scope. The GPL does not require a distributor to provide me with any kind of environment. If I get a Tivo kernel image but do not have a Tivo, the GPL does not require anyone to give me hardware. Fortunately, that is not at all my argument. Michael Poole - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/