Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1756705AbXFOQlY (ORCPT ); Fri, 15 Jun 2007 12:41:24 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751483AbXFOQlQ (ORCPT ); Fri, 15 Jun 2007 12:41:16 -0400 Received: from [212.112.238.170] ([212.112.238.170]:35577 "EHLO longford.lazybastard.org" rhost-flags-FAIL-FAIL-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751016AbXFOQlQ (ORCPT ); Fri, 15 Jun 2007 12:41:16 -0400 Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 18:36:25 +0200 From: =?utf-8?B?SsO2cm4=?= Engel To: =?utf-8?B?SsO2cm4=?= Engel , Linux-kernel Subject: Re: ext2 on flash memory Message-ID: <20070615163625.GC7747@lazybastard.org> References: <20070611101319.GA14284@DervishD> <20070614174509.GB31984@lazybastard.org> <20070614201714.GC1928@DervishD> <20070614203800.GG31984@lazybastard.org> <20070615161644.GB2373@DervishD> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20070615161644.GB2373@DervishD> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1732 Lines: 39 On Fri, 15 June 2007 18:16:44 +0200, DervishD wrote: > > Yes, I understand. That's worse than I thought. I was right now > thinking about "PortableApps", a set of free software applications that > are a little bit modified to work from a pendrive in Windows. Very > useful, because you can carry your OpenOffice (or AbiWord) and Firefox, > for example, to any Windows you're doomed to use. This applications > write repeteadly to the pendrive (specially Firefox...), and I think > they may wear the drive prematurely if used extensively. Possibly, yes. Estimates based on unknown numbers are hard, though. > So you have a zone which is unusable. Decent filesystems allow you > to mark some blocks as "dontuse" (ext2, for example). Does FAT allow > this? I don't know. If things get bad enough that you experience uncorrectable errors, I'd just trash the stick and get a new one instead. Trouble is - with a controller chip doing the error correction, you have no means of knowing when this happens. > I think I will be writing the pendrive, almost fully, once a week > (enough for an image of my home directory). That means less than 1GiB > written each week. That means 50-100 (in the worst case, making two > backups a week instead of one) writings each year in each block. Writing everything once a week is harmless. Filling the whole device is best-case behaviour. Local hot spots are the problem. Jörn -- Anything that can go wrong, will. -- Finagle's Law - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/