Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752653AbXFORFb (ORCPT ); Fri, 15 Jun 2007 13:05:31 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1750992AbXFORFT (ORCPT ); Fri, 15 Jun 2007 13:05:19 -0400 Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com ([66.249.82.229]:48074 "EHLO wx-out-0506.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751423AbXFORFQ (ORCPT ); Fri, 15 Jun 2007 13:05:16 -0400 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=j+nzLdG/U+M6z/2isNr5nSV2cXkyaH26Ziqvx0p30LpaSh4UshVX6zeUuouJN6ZGf+sBXXfJLqGjmeuQPCd/zw0LzXWiiv/zzLyfGQAv7ZseKt29epvyccxyZQk4xVKfqap5Z+8iGA99J9zaD3vl4tooewcIZaOyg1FX7CRNckM= Message-ID: <4672C6BA.6020702@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 13:04:58 -0400 From: Florin Malita User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0b2 (X11/20070116) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Poole CC: Ingo Molnar , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3 References: <200706142246.57583.dhazelton@enter.net> <878xal2a0q.fsf@graviton.dyn.troilus.org> <200706150127.18069.dhazelton@enter.net> <87sl8tzaj1.fsf@graviton.dyn.troilus.org> <20070615124039.GB21120@elte.hu> <87fy4tz8dc.fsf@graviton.dyn.troilus.org> <20070615143003.GA8775@elte.hu> <87zm31xo3q.fsf@graviton.dyn.troilus.org> <4672B5F6.706@gmail.com> <87r6odxkbc.fsf@graviton.dyn.troilus.org> In-Reply-To: <87r6odxkbc.fsf@graviton.dyn.troilus.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2181 Lines: 55 On 06/15/2007 12:18 PM, Michael Poole wrote: > Florin Malita writes: > > >> On 06/15/2007 10:56 AM, Michael Poole wrote: >> >>> The GPL cares about the key >>> used to generate an integral part of the executable form of the GPLed >>> work. >>> >> GLPv2 doesn't: why do you think the digital signature is an integral >> part of the executable? It can be a totally separate blob, distributed >> via a separate channel and even stored at a different location than >> the executable. Does it still look like an integral part of the >> executable to you then? >> > > Yes. If I cut a book in half and store the halves separately, does > the second half become an independent work? Except in this case you're not touching the book at all. If you write a review for a book (much better analogy methinks), then your review is obviously not an integral part of the book even though it's based on its content. > The integral-ness is a > function of how the thing is created and how it functions, not how it > is stored. If you need part B for part A to execute as intended, then > part A is not a complete work in itself. Being an integral part (as in combined or derived work) has nothing to do with usability. There are many other bits and pieces your executable needs in order to function properly (or at all) but that doesn't make your CPU microcode & electricity provider an integral part of the program, does it? Luckily, it doesn't really matter what you or I think that "integral-ness" means, all it matters is how copyright law defines a "derivative work" and whether a cryptographic hash is such a thing. Now are you seriously arguing that a hash is a derivative work? > On top of this, in the Tivo > case the two are distributed together, and even part of the same file. > It's mere aggregation, but it's totally irrelevant because they could just as easily change their approach. --- fm - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/