Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752572AbXFOR1w (ORCPT ); Fri, 15 Jun 2007 13:27:52 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1750758AbXFOR1o (ORCPT ); Fri, 15 Jun 2007 13:27:44 -0400 Received: from static-71-162-243-5.phlapa.fios.verizon.net ([71.162.243.5]:36666 "EHLO grelber.thyrsus.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750755AbXFOR1n (ORCPT ); Fri, 15 Jun 2007 13:27:43 -0400 From: Rob Landley Organization: Boundaries Unlimited To: "Nicolas Mailhot" Subject: Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3 Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 13:27:45 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 Cc: "David Schwartz" , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org References: <46063.192.54.193.51.1181897652.squirrel@rousalka.dyndns.org> In-Reply-To: <46063.192.54.193.51.1181897652.squirrel@rousalka.dyndns.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200706151327.45881.rob@landley.net> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1974 Lines: 45 On Friday 15 June 2007 04:54:12 Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > David Schwartz wrote : > > The GPL is about having the legal right to modify the software and > being > > able to put other people's distributed improvements back into the > > original code base. It does not guarantee that you will actually be > able > > to modify the software and get it to work on some particular hardware. > > This is obviously wrong. > > Need I remind everyone the "origin" of the GNU movement is RMS getting > a buggy printer driver from its manufacturer, and finding out he had > no way to fix it? What use would RMS have had for putting other > people's distributed improvements back into the original code base and > not being allowed to get his printer to work? (And yes driver was > os-side but only because devices had little computing capabilities > then. Nowadays a lot of this very same stuff happens on the > DRM-protected flashable firmware) Er, yes and no. The GPL evolved from the "Emacs License", and _that_ was heavily influenced by Stallman's fight with James Gosling over Gosling revoking permission to use Gosmacs code in GNU Emacs after Gosling sold his codebase to a commercial entity. http://www.free-soft.org/gpl_history/ The GNU project and the GPL are two separate things, as are the GNU project and GCC. (You can use GCC on MacOS X, AIX, and Windows. It doesn't make the existence of those operating systems the result of the GNU project. Neither is Linux, although there's a case for Linux being the result of the ABSENCE of an actual operating system coming out of the Gnu project after a decade of work...) Rob -- "One of my most productive days was throwing away 1000 lines of code." - Ken Thompson. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/