Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1757954AbXFOTuM (ORCPT ); Fri, 15 Jun 2007 15:50:12 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1754710AbXFOTt5 (ORCPT ); Fri, 15 Jun 2007 15:49:57 -0400 Received: from mail1.webmaster.com ([216.152.64.169]:2502 "EHLO mail1.webmaster.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1757800AbXFOTtx (ORCPT ); Fri, 15 Jun 2007 15:49:53 -0400 From: "David Schwartz" To: "Linux-Kernel@Vger. Kernel. Org" Subject: RE: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3 Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 12:49:08 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <1181913163.25228.507.camel@pmac.infradead.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Importance: Normal X-Authenticated-Sender: joelkatz@webmaster.com X-Spam-Processed: mail1.webmaster.com, Fri, 15 Jun 2007 12:49:39 -0700 (not processed: message from trusted or authenticated source) X-MDRemoteIP: 206.171.168.138 X-Return-Path: davids@webmaster.com X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Reply-To: davids@webmaster.com X-MDAV-Processed: mail1.webmaster.com, Fri, 15 Jun 2007 12:49:40 -0700 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2300 Lines: 53 > As long as it's not distributed "as part of a whole which is a work > based on the Program", there's no problem. > > You seem to be suggesting that even linking the Program together with > other stuff doesn't create a 'work based on the Program'. You seem claim > it's "mere aggregation on a volume of a storage or distribution medium". > Am I understanding you correctly? Correct. Linking does not create a "work based on the program" because linking does not create a work. Only a creative process can create a work. Anything else is mere aggregation. > Is there _anything_ which you admit would actually constitute a 'work > based on the Program', when that work wouldn't have been be a derived > work anyway? These terms are synonymous. And neither of them can apply to something that is not a work. > Or do you claim that those whole paragraphs of the GPL are > just meaningless drivel, when they explicitly make reference to applying > the GPL to works which would _normally_ be 'considered independent and > separate works in themselves'? The license is just clarifying copyright law. Even if it intended to do something else, it can't. The license cannot set its own scope. > If your interpretation of the GPL means that those paragraphs don't make > any sense at all, then I feel your interpretation may be suspect. They make perfect sense. They're clarifications of copyright law to help people who might not be familiar with the law understand what their obligations under the license are. All of those sections are reasonable explanations of what a "derivative work" is. It would be extremely strange to try to parse them for subtle differences. In any event, even if the GPL said "if you ever look at any source code to a GPL'd work, the FSF owns everything you code after that", it wouldn't matter. The GPL can't set its own scope. Copyright law, and the definition of a derivative work, set the GPL's scope anyway. The GPL only makes sense if you understand "mere aggregation" to mean 'as opposed to creative combination'. DS - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/