Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1758034AbXFOU2T (ORCPT ); Fri, 15 Jun 2007 16:28:19 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1754206AbXFOU2J (ORCPT ); Fri, 15 Jun 2007 16:28:09 -0400 Received: from sovereign.computergmbh.de ([85.214.69.204]:23869 "EHLO sovereign.computergmbh.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1754673AbXFOU2I (ORCPT ); Fri, 15 Jun 2007 16:28:08 -0400 Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 22:28:06 +0200 (CEST) From: Jan Engelhardt To: "Kok, Auke" cc: Cyrill Gorcunov , Randy Dunlap , Chris Friesen , dave young , Willy Tarreau , LKML Subject: Re: coding style In-Reply-To: <4672EC53.50409@intel.com> Message-ID: References: <20070614184836.GA6520@cvg> <20070615045111.GU943@1wt.eu> <46721F18.8090303@intel.com> <20070615173206.GA8151@cvg> <4672D246.2040306@nortel.com> <20070615110326.b0762b7a.randy.dunlap@oracle.com> <20070615191804.GC8151@cvg> <4672E6B3.1080205@intel.com> <4672EC53.50409@intel.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1978 Lines: 52 On Jun 15 2007 12:45, Kok, Auke wrote: >> >> Well tabs should _never_ be assumed to be 8, and in this regard, as I see it, >> CodingStyle has a bug. Tabs are there so that the user can set their width >> according to _their_ taste, simply so that both sides, >> >> from CodingStyle: >> Tabs are 8 characters, and thus indentations are also 8 >> characters. There are heretic movements that try to make >> indentations 4 (or even 2!) characters deep, and that is akin >> to trying to define the value of PI to be 3. > > again, this is about *indentation* and not about alignment > >> Linus (did he wrote that part?) and the heretics both can have their fun >> without impacting each other. If we wanted to force the user to have exactly >> 8 screen blanks, we should use spaces throughout. > > Linus was friendly enough to give us permission to use tabs. He forces tabs for > indentation, but leaves it up to everyone else to (1) set their editor to show > tabs as 2 or 4 or whatever, and (2) use spaces for alignment. > > the bottom line here is that we encourage everyone to use tabs=8, and allow > some degree of freedom for some people to vary this *AND* have decent looking > alignment for *EVERYONE* by allowing them to use spaces for alignment. I'll just say "+1", because that's what I meant. Blame university for mathematical pickiness: >> Tabs are 8 characters, and thus indentations are also 8 is wrong ;-) -- * Tabs _are_ 1 character (use a hex editor and see) and * Tabs _are not always displayed_ as "8 characters" [there exists a user for which \t != 8] [not me though] * Tabs _are displayed_ as _much characters as the user specifies_. (CodingStyle could need a clarification.) Jan -- - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/