Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1758212AbXFOUq6 (ORCPT ); Fri, 15 Jun 2007 16:46:58 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1755986AbXFOUqu (ORCPT ); Fri, 15 Jun 2007 16:46:50 -0400 Received: from pentafluge.infradead.org ([213.146.154.40]:49750 "EHLO pentafluge.infradead.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1755706AbXFOUqt (ORCPT ); Fri, 15 Jun 2007 16:46:49 -0400 Subject: Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3 From: David Woodhouse To: Linus Torvalds Cc: Daniel Hazelton , Alan Cox , Alexandre Oliva , Greg KH , debian developer , david@lang.hm, Tarkan Erimer , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Andrew Morton , mingo@elte.hu In-Reply-To: References: <466A3EC6.6030706@netone.net.tr> <200706142144.15695.dhazelton@enter.net> <1181895924.25228.319.camel@pmac.infradead.org> <200706150458.29943.dhazelton@enter.net> <1181899064.25228.342.camel@pmac.infradead.org> <1181930204.25228.590.camel@pmac.infradead.org> <1181936955.5211.62.camel@shinybook.infradead.org> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 21:47:03 +0100 Message-Id: <1181940425.5211.81.camel@shinybook.infradead.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.10.1 (2.10.1-17.fc7.dwmw2.1) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SRS-Rewrite: SMTP reverse-path rewritten from by pentafluge.infradead.org See http://www.infradead.org/rpr.html Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1509 Lines: 34 On Fri, 2007-06-15 at 13:34 -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote: > I think that's a somewhat valid argument, although I'm not really sure > whether there is any difference between, say, a Fedora 7 "livecd", and a > router with a cramfs filesystem in rom. > > Both really work the same way, and both really are very much targeted > towards a specific hardware platform. I'm inclined to agree. And I'd probably suggest that the Fedora 7 'livecd' would be in violation of the GPL if it were to include the binary-only modules, too. Enough people agree with me that we _don't_ in fact include those modules. And other people have been convinced to _stop_ shipping those modules, when once they did. > So I would at least *personally* suggest that people not look into the > license for these kinds of things, and also that you really need to have a > very specific case, and just basically put it in front of a judge. > At some point, *somebody* has to decide in a gray area, and I'm not saying > that a judge is really _technically_ any better really to decide the > issue, but at least he is hopefully _independent_ of both parties, so when > a judge makes an arbitrary decision, the "arbitrariness" is hopefully at > least somewhat "fair". Indeed. -- dwmw2 - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/