Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 12:04:56 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 12:03:30 -0500 Received: from t2.redhat.com ([199.183.24.243]:37358 "EHLO passion.cambridge.redhat.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 12:02:24 -0500 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.4 06/23/2000 with nmh-1.0.4 From: David Woodhouse X-Accept-Language: en_GB In-Reply-To: <3C0CFF5F.3090404@dplanet.ch> In-Reply-To: <3C0CFF5F.3090404@dplanet.ch> <20011204111115.A15160@thyrsus.com> <1861.1007341572@kao2.melbourne.sgi.com> <20011204131136.B6051@caldera.de> <20011204072808.A11867@thyrsus.com> <20011204133932.A8805@caldera.de> <20011204074815.A12231@thyrsus.com> <20011204140050.A10691@caldera.de> <20011204081640.A12658@thyrsus.com> <20011204142958.A14069@caldera.de> <19642.1007484062@redhat.com> To: Giacomo Catenazzi Cc: esr@thyrsus.com, kbuild-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [kbuild-devel] Converting the 2.5 kernel to kbuild 2.5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2001 17:02:17 +0000 Message-ID: <21945.1007485337@redhat.com> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org cate@dplanet.ch said: > I don't think esr changed non problematic rules, but one: all rules > without help become automatically dependent to CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL. I > don't like it, but I understand why he makes this decision. That is precisely the kind of bogus change which should _not_ be done in such an underhand way. With the exception of obvious and undisputed bug fixes, the behaviour of the first CML2 version should precisely match the behaviour of the last CML1 version. If you want to make symbols without help depend on CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL, submit the equivalent patch for CML1 and watch it get shot down in flames. Then go away. But don't let this dissuade you from doing something that's actually useful, like CML2 could be. On the other hand, perhaps we could reach some kind of a deal.... Eric, if you can manage to also sneak a kernel debugger past Linus as part of your big-patch-which-hides-controversial-changes, I for one would be happy enough to deal with the bogus config changes :) -- dwmw2 - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/