Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1759049AbXFPBCh (ORCPT ); Fri, 15 Jun 2007 21:02:37 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1752621AbXFPBCa (ORCPT ); Fri, 15 Jun 2007 21:02:30 -0400 Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com ([66.249.82.235]:1223 "EHLO wx-out-0506.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750963AbXFPBC3 (ORCPT ); Fri, 15 Jun 2007 21:02:29 -0400 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=qs29I8I+zaiYoKpFgBrxobTvMKq02Wuv4/t6w6C931GI9hRVA1k8z7yWdBprpAUaQPJXlBRYogAMRfzAU8Rr7DsQBMdunEL90BcEY/UzTMxIrHYDpvzO3PwGyUYkZ4zkn99Hl/xGZd8tJswLbTSaiRykkOA/UwaB/syS+9dHGSM= Message-ID: <7b69d1470706151802k20dcdefaj4634ebfd7126b66c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 20:02:28 -0500 From: "Scott Preece" To: "Alexandre Oliva" Subject: Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3 Cc: "Ingo Molnar" , "Rob Landley" , "Alan Cox" , "Daniel Hazelton" , "Linus Torvalds" , "Greg KH" , "debian developer" , david@lang.hm, "Tarkan Erimer" , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, "Andrew Morton" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <466A3EC6.6030706@netone.net.tr> <20070614122031.4751a52b@the-village.bc.nu> <20070614122546.GB22078@elte.hu> <200706141907.11957.rob@landley.net> <20070615120926.GD6269@elte.hu> <20070615214804.GC4996@elte.hu> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1191 Lines: 28 On 6/15/07, Alexandre Oliva wrote: > On Jun 15, 2007, Ingo Molnar wrote: > > How do these stop a user's exercise of the four freedoms of a piece of > software licensed under the GPL? --- I know you don't see it that way, but I still find it bizarre that "the right to modify the software" should be construed as "implies the right to modify the device that the software was shipped in". I do agree that it's not a change in "spirit" - I'm sure the GPL authors would have disliked TiVoization 15 years ago as much as they do today, if they had thought about it (regardless of the Stallman interview where he said he didn't care very much about devices). However, whether it is a change "in spirit" or not, it clearly is a qualitative change that substantially changes the rights granted under the license and it's perfectly reasonable for some authors who liked the GPLv2 to dislike and reject GPLv3. scott - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/