Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1758031AbXFPWCv (ORCPT ); Sat, 16 Jun 2007 18:02:51 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1756481AbXFPWCo (ORCPT ); Sat, 16 Jun 2007 18:02:44 -0400 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([66.187.233.31]:56088 "EHLO mx1.redhat.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1756433AbXFPWCn (ORCPT ); Sat, 16 Jun 2007 18:02:43 -0400 To: Daniel Hazelton Cc: Tim Post , Ingo Molnar , Alan Cox , Linus Torvalds , Greg KH , debian developer , david@lang.hm, Tarkan Erimer , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Andrew Morton Subject: Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3 References: <200706132304.21984.dhazelton@enter.net> <200706160007.46024.dhazelton@enter.net> <200706161443.26338.dhazelton@enter.net> From: Alexandre Oliva Organization: Red Hat OS Tools Group Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 19:01:59 -0300 In-Reply-To: <200706161443.26338.dhazelton@enter.net> (Daniel Hazelton's message of "Sat\, 16 Jun 2007 14\:43\:26 -0400") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.990 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1824 Lines: 40 On Jun 16, 2007, Daniel Hazelton wrote: > On Saturday 16 June 2007 04:21:04 Alexandre Oliva wrote: >> On Jun 16, 2007, Daniel Hazelton wrote: >> > In the case of renting a machine you can try to legislate new laws all >> > you want. It doesn't make a difference. There are certain rights you >> > don't get when renting something that you do when you own it. >> >> You mean renting the computer with the software in it is not >> distribution of the software? > It is. But you don't have the same rights to a rented machine as you > do to one you have purchased. That's true. But since it's distribution, the licensing terms of the software in there must be followed, or the software must be removed. It's really this simple. It's not about the hardware. It's about the software and what you must not prevent others from doing with it. > And yes, they can even have terms in it that violate the GPL. Not > that a "renters contract" ("rental agreement" or whatever they call > them in your jurisdiction) that has those terms can *legally* > violate the GPL - but it doesn't stop them from existing. By "legally violate the GPL", do you mean lawfully escape the terms of the GPL, or that infringe the copyrights of the authors for violate its legal terms? I hope it's the latter. -- Alexandre Oliva http://www.lsd.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/ FSF Latin America Board Member http://www.fsfla.org/ Red Hat Compiler Engineer aoliva@{redhat.com, gcc.gnu.org} Free Software Evangelist oliva@{lsd.ic.unicamp.br, gnu.org} - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/