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Subject: Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3
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From: Alexandre Oliva <aoliva@redhat.com>
Organization: Red Hat OS Tools Group
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 19:19:57 -0300
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On Jun 16, 2007, "Jesper Juhl" <jesper.juhl@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 16/06/07, Alexandre Oliva <aoliva@redhat.com> wrote:
>> On Jun 16, 2007, Al Viro <viro@ftp.linux.org.uk> wrote:
>> 
>> > How the hell does that improve the situation for users?
>> 
>> Maybe it doesn't.  How does it make it worse?
>> 
> Now not even the vendor can upgrade the software in the hardware and
> fix problems for the user. The user loses.

Assuming the vendor's intent as for patching the software is to help
the user.  If the vendor doesn't want to let the user do that
independently, why should this assumption hold?

-- 
Alexandre Oliva         http://www.lsd.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/
FSF Latin America Board Member         http://www.fsfla.org/
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Free Software Evangelist  oliva@{lsd.ic.unicamp.br, gnu.org}
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