Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1761225AbXFQUOg (ORCPT ); Sun, 17 Jun 2007 16:14:36 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1758988AbXFQUO3 (ORCPT ); Sun, 17 Jun 2007 16:14:29 -0400 Received: from outpipe-village-512-1.bc.nu ([81.2.110.250]:46925 "EHLO the-village.bc.nu" rhost-flags-OK-FAIL-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1758777AbXFQUO2 (ORCPT ); Sun, 17 Jun 2007 16:14:28 -0400 Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 21:18:53 +0100 From: Alan Cox To: Alexandre Oliva Cc: Ingo Molnar , Daniel Hazelton , Linus Torvalds , Greg KH , debian developer , david@lang.hm, Tarkan Erimer , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Andrew Morton Subject: Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3 Message-ID: <20070617211853.400712e0@the-village.bc.nu> In-Reply-To: References: <20070614235004.GA14952@elte.hu> <20070615041149.GA6741@brong.net> <20070615072322.GA7594@brong.net> <20070616021630.GA30660@brong.net> <20070616103130.GD32405@brong.net> <20070616233251.GA17270@brong.net> <20070617122025.5a444e62@the-village.bc.nu> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.9.1 (GTK+ 2.10.8; i386-redhat-linux-gnu) Organization: Red Hat UK Cyf., Amberley Place, 107-111 Peascod Street, Windsor, Berkshire, SL4 1TE, Y Deyrnas Gyfunol. Cofrestrwyd yng Nghymru a Lloegr o'r rhif cofrestru 3798903 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1202 Lines: 31 On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 15:33:33 -0300 Alexandre Oliva wrote: > On Jun 17, 2007, Alan Cox wrote: > > >> I don't know any law that requires tivoization. > > > In the USSA it is arguable that wireless might need it (if done in > > software) for certain properties. (The argument being it must be > > tamperproof to random end consumers). > > But this is not tivoization. It most definitely is > Tivoization is a manufacturer using technical measures to prevent the > user from tampering (*) with the device, *while* keeping the ability > to tamper with it changes itself. That accurately describes the FCC wireless rules. As a vendor I am perfectly allowed to tinker, but the product must not be "end user" modifiable. (and some vendors take this to mean binary only, despite the fact end users generally aren't able to modify code and EE students are just as able to modify electronics as we are code). Alan - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/