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Howlett" , David Vernet , Juri Lelli , Laurent Dufour , Peter Xu , David Hildenbrand , Jens Axboe , mcgrof@kernel.org, masahiroy@kernel.org, nathan@kernel.org, changbin.du@intel.com, ytcoode@gmail.com, Vincent Guittot , Dietmar Eggemann , Benjamin Segall , Daniel Bristot de Oliveira , Valentin Schneider , Christopher Lameter , Pekka Enberg , Joonsoo Kim , 42.hyeyoo@gmail.com, Alexander Potapenko , Marco Elver , Dmitry Vyukov , Shakeel Butt , Muchun Song , arnd@arndb.de, jbaron@akamai.com, David Rientjes , Minchan Kim , Kalesh Singh , kernel-team , linux-mm , iommu@lists.linux.dev, kasan-dev@googlegroups.com, io-uring@vger.kernel.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org, linux-bcache@vger.kernel.org, linux-modules@vger.kernel.org, LKML Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 00/30] Code tagging framework and applications Message-ID: <20220907094306.3383dac2@gandalf.local.home> In-Reply-To: <20220907130323.rwycrntnckc6h43n@kmo-framework> References: <20220901201502.sn6223bayzwferxv@moria.home.lan> <20220905234649.525vorzx27ybypsn@kmo-framework> <20220906182058.iijmpzu4rtxowy37@kmo-framework> <20220907130323.rwycrntnckc6h43n@kmo-framework> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.8 (GTK+ 2.24.33; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on lindbergh.monkeyblade.net Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, 7 Sep 2022 09:04:28 -0400 Kent Overstreet wrote: > On Wed, Sep 07, 2022 at 01:00:09PM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote: > > Hmm, it seems that further discussion doesn't really make much sense > > here. I know how to use my time better. > > Just a thought, but I generally find it more productive to propose ideas than to > just be disparaging. > But it's not Michal's job to do so. He's just telling you that the given feature is not worth the burden. He's telling you the issues that he has with the patch set. It's the submitter's job to address those concerns and not the maintainer's to tell you how to make it better. When Linus tells us that a submission is crap, we don't ask him how to make it less crap, we listen to why he called it crap, and then rewrite to be not so crappy. If we cannot figure it out, it doesn't get in. -- Steve