Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1761865AbXFRAbv (ORCPT ); Sun, 17 Jun 2007 20:31:51 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1756923AbXFRAbo (ORCPT ); Sun, 17 Jun 2007 20:31:44 -0400 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([66.187.233.31]:60581 "EHLO mx1.redhat.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1754165AbXFRAbn (ORCPT ); Sun, 17 Jun 2007 20:31:43 -0400 To: Linus Torvalds Cc: Al Viro , Bernd Schmidt , Alan Cox , Ingo Molnar , Daniel Hazelton , Greg KH , debian developer , david@lang.hm, Tarkan Erimer , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Andrew Morton Subject: Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3 References: <20070614195517.GA4933@elte.hu> <20070614235004.GA14952@elte.hu> <20070615011012.6c09066e@the-village.bc.nu> <20070615012623.GA25189@elte.hu> <20070615101007.0cbfd078@the-village.bc.nu> <4673CA7C.5040207@t-online.de> <20070616181902.GB21478@ftp.linux.org.uk> From: Alexandre Oliva Organization: Red Hat OS Tools Group Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 21:30:38 -0300 In-Reply-To: (Linus Torvalds's message of "Sun\, 17 Jun 2007 16\:33\:28 -0700 \(PDT\)") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.990 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1605 Lines: 45 On Jun 17, 2007, Linus Torvalds wrote: > On Sun, 17 Jun 2007, Alexandre Oliva wrote: >> /me hands Linus a mirror > "I'm a damn handsome dude, ain't I?" Heh. I beg to differ ;-) >> Serious, what's so hard to understand about: > You're talking about something totally different. No, I'm not. You can say tivoization is *good* however much you like. This doesn't dispute in any way my claim that no tivoization would be *better*, that you'd get contributions from the people that, because of tivoization, don't feel compelled to develop and contribute, because they can't use the fruits of their efforts in the device where they would be most useful for them. > What Tivo did is *good* in my opinion! > Can't you get that through your skull? No. I disagree. We can agree to disagree on that. > They gave the software back! Be happy! They *followed* the rules. They > *followed* the tit-for-tat. But they removed incentive for far more users to do so. So you get fewer contributions than you could without tivoization. "Can't you get that through your skull?" :-) -- Alexandre Oliva http://www.lsd.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/ FSF Latin America Board Member http://www.fsfla.org/ Red Hat Compiler Engineer aoliva@{redhat.com, gcc.gnu.org} Free Software Evangelist oliva@{lsd.ic.unicamp.br, gnu.org} - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/