Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1758678AbXFRGeb (ORCPT ); Mon, 18 Jun 2007 02:34:31 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1758179AbXFRGeE (ORCPT ); Mon, 18 Jun 2007 02:34:04 -0400 Received: from paragon.brong.net ([66.232.154.163]:54122 "EHLO paragon.brong.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1757550AbXFRGeD (ORCPT ); Mon, 18 Jun 2007 02:34:03 -0400 Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 16:33:57 +1000 From: Bron Gondwana To: Chris Adams Cc: Bron Gondwana , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3 Message-ID: <20070618063357.GA26311@brong.net> References: <20070617215840.GA1217855@hiwaay.net> <20070617232221.GB14098@brong.net> <20070618004538.GA1283823@hiwaay.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070618004538.GA1283823@hiwaay.net> Organization: brong.net User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.15+20070412 (2007-04-11) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1733 Lines: 36 On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 07:45:38PM -0500, Chris Adams wrote: > Once upon a time, Bron Gondwana said: > > To be fair here, this could also be accomplished by having to flip a > > physical switch on the router, especially if you did something funky > > like: > > > > [---] push this button for a 5 minute access pass to upload new > > software through physical cable port 1. > > > > More complex, but not unreasonable. > > Well, there is no restriction on putting files on the routing engine's > storage devices (flash and hard drive); it is running OpenSSH, so > scp/sftp work fine, and you can drop to a shell easily. The restriction > is that the kernel won't run unsigned binaries. > > Also, flipping physical switches is pretty much an unreasonable > expectation for core router operation. These are often in other > locations, sometimes other telcos' central offices (where you have to > pay to have "remote hands" do something and then hope they don't screw > it up). You can easily go the entire life of a device where the primary > operators never physically see the device. Every server I run is like that, but if something is important enough I can remote control a robot over to push the button for me (actually, I think they implement this under the hood by having a human read the ticket I submit and go push the button for me manually, but that could be my imagination. So long as the button gets pushed the black box is functioning) Bron. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/