Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1759472AbXFRJXs (ORCPT ); Mon, 18 Jun 2007 05:23:48 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1756729AbXFRJXm (ORCPT ); Mon, 18 Jun 2007 05:23:42 -0400 Received: from mail2.ameuro.de ([195.140.232.8]:57682 "EHLO mail2.ameuro.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752634AbXFRJXl convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Mon, 18 Jun 2007 05:23:41 -0400 X-Greylist: delayed 1995 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at vger.kernel.org; Mon, 18 Jun 2007 05:23:41 EDT Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 10:49:56 +0200 From: Anders Larsen Subject: Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3 To: Alexandre Oliva Cc: Ingo Molnar , Alan Cox , Daniel Hazelton , Linus Torvalds , Greg KH , debian developer , david@lang.hm, Tarkan Erimer , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Andrew Morton X-Mailer: Balsa 2.3.14 Message-Id: <1182156596l.29108l.0l@ecxwww1.reanet.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-AEV-Kundenmail-Information: AEV Virus and Spam Secure Mail System X-AEV-Kundenmail-SpamCheck: X-MailScanner-From: al@alarsen.net Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1149 Lines: 33 On Sat, 16 Jun 2007 22:54:56 -0300, Alexandre Oliva wrote: > I don't know any law that requires tivoization. Not exactly laws, but pretty close: Credit-card payment terminals are subject to strict security certification, where it has to be ensured that a) the user cannot tinker with the device without rendering it unusable for its original purpose (electronic payments), and b) the manufacturer is able to update the device _in_ _the_ _field_. Those are hard requirements imposed by the banks and credit-card companies. We _are_ allowed to disclose the source code (and we do, of course) so that it can be used for other purposes, and of course the user can modify it. But there's just no way she would be (legally) able to run the modified software in the same device for the original purpose. With the (current draft of) GPLv3 we could not legally use Linux on such devices. Cheers Anders - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/