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Subject: Re: BD71847 clk driver disables clk-32k-out causing RTC/WDT failure
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To:     Peng Fan <peng.fan@nxp.com>,
        "tharvey@gateworks.com" <tharvey@gateworks.com>,
        Stephen Boyd <sboyd@kernel.org>
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On 9/9/22 04:06, Peng Fan wrote:
>> Subject: Re: BD71847 clk driver disables clk-32k-out causing RTC/WDT failure
>>
>> On 9/8/22 21:25, Tim Harvey wrote:
>>> On Thu, Sep 8, 2022 at 9:55 AM Marek Vasut <marex@denx.de> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 9/8/22 18:00, Tim Harvey wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, Sep 1, 2022 at 9:14 PM Matti Vaittinen
>> <mazziesaccount@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Tim,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 9/2/22 01:23, Tim Harvey wrote:
>>>>>>> Greetings,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've found that the bd71847 clk driver
>> (CONFIG_COMMON_CLK_BD718XX
>>>>>>> drivers/clk/clk-bd718x7.c) disables clk-32k-out (the BD71847
>>>>>>> C32K_OUT
>>>>>>> pin) which is connected IMX8MM RTC_XTALI which ends up disabling
>>>>>>> the IMX RTC as well as the IMX WDOG functionality.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> //snip
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This happens via clk_unprepare_unused() as nothing is flagging the
>>>>>>> clk-32k-out as being used. What should be added to the device-tree
>>>>>>> to signify that this clk is indeed necessary and should not be disabled?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have seen following proposal from Marek Vasut:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> I am not sure if the discussion is completed though. I guess it was
>>>>>> agreed this was needed/usefull and maybe the remaining thing to
>>>>>> decide was just the property naming.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best Regards
>>>>>>            -- Matti
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Matti,
>>>>>
>>>>> Marek - has there been any progress on determining how best to keep
>>>>> certain clocks from being disabled?
>>>>
>>>> No. You can read the discussion above.
>>>
>>> Marek,
>>>
>>> I wasn't on the linux-clk list at that time so can't respond to the
>>> thread but the discussion seems to have died out a couple of months
>>> ago with no agreement between you or Stephen on how to deal with it.
>>>
>>> So where do we take this from here? It looks like there are about 18
>>> boards with dt's using "rohm,bd718*" which would all have non working
>>> RTC/WDOG with CONFIG_COMMON_CLK_BD718XX enabled (which it is in
>>> arch/arm64/configs/defconfig) right?
> 
> Is there any requirement that the bd718xx clk needs to be runtime on/off?

Yes, the 32kHz clock on BD71xxx should behave like any other clock, 
unless specified otherwise, see below.

> I suppose the clk should always be never be off, if yes, why not have something:

What is needed in this specific case of BD718xx is I think clock 
consumer on the MX8M clock driver side which would claim the 32kHz input 
from the PMIC and up the clock enable count to keep the 32 kHz clock 
always on. The PMIC is most likely supplying 32 kHz clock to the MX8M, 
which if the 32 kHz clock are turned off would hang (I observed that 
before too).

What I tried to address in this thread is a generic problem which 
commonly appears on various embedded systems, except every time anyone 
tried to solve it in a generic manner, it was rejected or they gave up.

The problem is this -- you have an arbitrary clock, and you need to keep 
it running always otherwise the system fails, and you do not have a 
clock consumer in the DT for whatever reason e.g. because the SoC is 
only used as a clock source for some unrelated clock net. There must be 
a way to mark the clock as "never disable these", i.e. critical-clock. 
(I feel like I keep repeating this over and over in this thread, so 
please read the whole thread backlog)