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[2620:137:e000::1:20]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id kb21-20020a170907925500b0077082de48b1si776073ejb.894.2022.09.09.12.13.49; Fri, 09 Sep 2022 12:14:14 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 2620:137:e000::1:20 as permitted sender) client-ip=2620:137:e000::1:20; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@kernel.org header.s=k20201202 header.b=cgis6XqH; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 2620:137:e000::1:20 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S229770AbiIISrs (ORCPT + 99 others); Fri, 9 Sep 2022 14:47:48 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:50306 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S229567AbiIISrr (ORCPT ); Fri, 9 Sep 2022 14:47:47 -0400 Received: from dfw.source.kernel.org (dfw.source.kernel.org [IPv6:2604:1380:4641:c500::1]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4CC36130842; Fri, 9 Sep 2022 11:47:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.kernel.org (relay.kernel.org [52.25.139.140]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by dfw.source.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C078C620B7; Fri, 9 Sep 2022 18:47:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2D79EC433C1; Fri, 9 Sep 2022 18:47:43 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=k20201202; t=1662749265; bh=KQAifQugDA8mdZXeKVOC1h5AUP6dZ+XfBsejVtQVVyQ=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=cgis6XqH+8A4x2sfm5RGxquGi/ap8JDpYGVGSK8HwEdDNx9f5uJzm9g44eIHLEtXb R187VsPfk5yB/JsY5GwlNxySWc4RTCwZVw0feIPS4QQ1GhXcfYpgGS885Bqy5kaRL9 avZjnCAVL9s6dAmPYNaoX/y44661Bmk05HgfmWNf6w0v0Y1K1macnFc8tCxGzLk2NZ Coh25f8O/4jRgf/a2IP7k7vp+X8jFEhscUUP0am97p9Fy1xWzsYV77DLii59RlxTCR zIT0JQgHHROtYIFeIYrWFBIrOFofnUerphTtiUFgOsUf0dMPEv7elJPm7Ac23xEY7O DC7lp/fo/BKTQ== Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2022 19:47:39 +0100 From: Mark Brown To: Krzysztof Kozlowski Cc: Astrid Rost , Liam Girdwood , Rob Herring , Krzysztof Kozlowski , kernel@axis.com, alsa-devel-mejlinglistan , devicetree@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] dt-bindings: sound: ts3a227e: add control of debounce times Message-ID: References: <20220907135827.16209-1-astrid.rost@axis.com> <2b81d814-f47a-e548-83dc-b1e38857e8ce@linaro.org> <9a72bd22-9298-65ce-a894-540f98745a7e@linaro.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Jqed1H5o0jXqkowM" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <9a72bd22-9298-65ce-a894-540f98745a7e@linaro.org> X-Cookie: FORTH IF HONK THEN X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIMWL_WL_HIGH, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI, SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on lindbergh.monkeyblade.net Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org --Jqed1H5o0jXqkowM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Fri, Sep 09, 2022 at 10:21:30AM +0200, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote: > It's more than one property and many other patch submitters were using > this reason as well. As a result, few TXT bindings grew from 5 to 10 > properties within one year and there was still no conversion to YAML. > I understand your concerns however I have stronger motivation to do the > conversion, than for accepting new features. For me the metric is proportionality - the amount of extra effort we're forcing people to go through should bear some relationship to the change they're trying to make. We can't very well complain that people don't upstream things if when they try to do so they have to jump through some tangentially related hoops relating to the existing code in order to get anything done. We can and should *ask* people to do additional cleanups or whatever but creating requirements that dramatically expand the scope of work someone's having to do are a lot of stop energy. --Jqed1H5o0jXqkowM Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAABCgAdFiEEreZoqmdXGLWf4p/qJNaLcl1Uh9AFAmMbiksACgkQJNaLcl1U h9A7Wgf/ZgdTJKiEDmpaLKTPfTfTsjf1KAym2sQrtDKauo+M6AOHc0PWCDgjnRC1 04Oi9yEs/3/WdJVIqImjQQEfzEfPH3SLekj4cwKGu1KM4Otog62IqZT2Ms3ZhMRR TOBSy0lNibBQmrDehFTTrYusFwZI+Zri5JBpcEksWu7swxM/BKkteB75Xm0uKZo/ k80IIhTEaY6SBQ+3k/6cgvVJAFIRo1MFkdlOKboL7sZTKKVTE4F4P0Pdr+FlfGel mYysNGLILSi4Awk9RaeSyiIcZmNSaW6OlOdaH1rFT3dl0Qx8Co7JGjm0SGkwO9uY e6JJht7Nnigw5VzTrwNoX8w19iRlng== =tvQB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Jqed1H5o0jXqkowM--