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[2620:137:e000::1:20]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id q10-20020a056a00150a00b00542deddc4e0si2695899pfu.46.2022.09.11.11.26.33; Sun, 11 Sep 2022 11:27:00 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 2620:137:e000::1:20 as permitted sender) client-ip=2620:137:e000::1:20; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b="ZOZgXqz/"; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 2620:137:e000::1:20 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=NONE sp=QUARANTINE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S229601AbiIKSAe (ORCPT + 99 others); Sun, 11 Sep 2022 14:00:34 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:52122 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S229499AbiIKSAd (ORCPT ); Sun, 11 Sep 2022 14:00:33 -0400 Received: from mail-oa1-x29.google.com (mail-oa1-x29.google.com [IPv6:2001:4860:4864:20::29]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C67335FD0; Sun, 11 Sep 2022 11:00:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-oa1-x29.google.com with SMTP id 586e51a60fabf-11e9a7135easo17767234fac.6; Sun, 11 Sep 2022 11:00:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date; bh=lpIz80DghGGwjIn4yGkOwm4Ls4TinTTtzRBXCYSCrDk=; b=ZOZgXqz/ArjfoAnB+0jZzRx+rthBH9sr3pdoFE3GNbBzpRISacpgTcE6VOzMyzccAX 9F1FpqE8Q9dddd8Cf2TyxBRuX3ELEsjZHVa90iPoGZU5Jg753yq3RV4r9MrVb7yfyk7H pxaLwQoDIkA0jj3CgMY+swbBn2G7O7395aPkaAtWV5Ss4L6wEF+Vnx6S9tQ0D6vEj33B 0l5eyMPS0yrXVJ8U9oVTPNTjPPnE1OZDEwadVQ91Ux9Hne8z+Ee9XAbFCKLh1PhOzIT3 +Ey31t2F9J6sJwOQHUkh7Ht4bITQYO0W1jiAI7jq+S8JemMZve7JEPgInAnkNyGJxhS2 hhQw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date; bh=lpIz80DghGGwjIn4yGkOwm4Ls4TinTTtzRBXCYSCrDk=; b=Heg4l/9A8oOkck56aoynRlwGzsotTSlF1tEej74dCoAjzZG37HJ+3fjdrhhODz0jHL gMeBY0ypNblR7HkVORdd+8bdWB6hqqgvmbZvD0tdNpke8GufdFDbXdjKchIVFKwud1yC 0vak4ZsGjfjKXIRaiMs2mBKjpnecS2GmAw81bYTeg98CA3XqlK0Oi7L1uLCNRATiJaqn UJg03D/YmmRW2S5olAF9gRFAIERGwC0iBjzoNp0YmfgOazftVoUkEnbtyVyiesiB3L5V 7MGurdJz1KVe6U80B9n1FuJiSC26djd+efwsVw/7a0QNCby1f8iAzWBAsA+5nBWGUB6w 9Oxg== X-Gm-Message-State: ACgBeo1w3OpJo8qDAT1yTd6dhmodOzZ6Te5iwObrEP9QH3gG77cr57+x C3D3ynaR2c9Snq2oejDeM7GkIV7bl+rJj3830ns= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6808:1a9a:b0:34f:b9df:b3 with SMTP id bm26-20020a0568081a9a00b0034fb9df00b3mr224200oib.183.1662919230912; Sun, 11 Sep 2022 11:00:30 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20220701090240.1896131-1-dmitry.osipenko@collabora.com> <2a646ce4-c2ec-3b11-77a0-cc720afd6fe1@collabora.com> <9674d00e-c0d6-ceba-feab-5dc475bda694@collabora.com> <73b51dde-689f-64ce-a1c8-0d7c84a2ed66@collabora.com> <5f118e10-db7a-a128-1e87-c9dddb65b2ac@collabora.com> <2ce5ff0a-9ab2-d146-04db-487a64714fce@gmail.com> <5988bf07-dd2e-a7ad-1ed9-831a402c3c5d@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: From: Rob Clark Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2022 11:00:21 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 2/2] drm/gem: Don't map imported GEMs To: Dmitry Osipenko Cc: =?UTF-8?Q?Christian_K=C3=B6nig?= , =?UTF-8?Q?Christian_K=C3=B6nig?= , David Airlie , Gerd Hoffmann , Gurchetan Singh , Chia-I Wu , Maarten Lankhorst , Maxime Ripard , Thomas Zimmermann , Emil Velikov , =?UTF-8?Q?Thomas_Hellstr=C3=B6m?= , Linux Kernel Mailing List , dri-devel , "open list:VIRTIO GPU DRIVER" , linux-tegra@vger.kernel.org, Dmitry Osipenko , kernel@collabora.com, Daniel Vetter Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on lindbergh.monkeyblade.net Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, Sep 7, 2022 at 3:25 AM Dmitry Osipenko wrote: > > On 8/23/22 19:47, Rob Clark wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 23, 2022 at 3:01 AM Christian K=C3=B6nig > > wrote: > >> > >> Am 22.08.22 um 19:26 schrieb Dmitry Osipenko: > >>> On 8/16/22 22:55, Dmitry Osipenko wrote: > >>>> On 8/16/22 15:03, Christian K=C3=B6nig wrote: > >>>>> Am 16.08.22 um 13:44 schrieb Dmitry Osipenko: > >>>>>> [SNIP] > >>>>>>> The other complication I noticed is that we don't seem to keep ar= ound > >>>>>>> the fd after importing to a GEM handle. And I could imagine that > >>>>>>> doing so could cause issues with too many fd's. So I guess the b= est > >>>>>>> thing is to keep the status quo and let drivers that cannot mmap > >>>>>>> imported buffers just fail mmap? > >>>>>> That actually should be all the drivers excluding those that use > >>>>>> DRM-SHMEM because only DRM-SHMEM uses dma_buf_mmap(), that's why i= t > >>>>>> works for Panfrost. I'm pretty sure mmaping of imported GEMs doesn= 't > >>>>>> work for the MSM driver, isn't it? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Intel and AMD drivers don't allow to map the imported dma-bufs. Bo= th > >>>>>> refuse to do the mapping. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Although, AMDGPU "succeeds" to do the mapping using > >>>>>> AMDGPU_GEM_DOMAIN_GTT, but then touching the mapping causes bus fa= ult, > >>>>>> hence mapping actually fails. I think it might be the AMDGPU > >>>>>> driver/libdrm bug, haven't checked yet. > >>>>> That's then certainly broken somehow. Amdgpu should nerve ever have > >>>>> allowed to mmap() imported DMA-bufs and the last time I check it di= dn't. > >>>> I'll take a closer look. So far I can only tell that it's a kernel > >>>> driver issue because once I re-applied this "Don't map imported GEMs= " > >>>> patch, AMDGPU began to refuse mapping AMDGPU_GEM_DOMAIN_GTT. > >>>> > >>>>>> So we're back to the point that neither of DRM drivers need to map > >>>>>> imported dma-bufs and this was never tested. In this case this pat= ch is > >>>>>> valid, IMO. > >>>> Actually, I'm now looking at Etnaviv and Nouveau and seems they shou= ld > >>>> map imported dma-buf properly. I know that people ran Android on > >>>> Etnaviv. So maybe devices with a separated GPU/display need to map > >>>> imported display BO for Android support. Wish somebody who ran Andro= id > >>>> on one of these devices using upstream drivers could give a definiti= ve > >>>> answer. I may try to test Nouveau later on. > >>>> > >>> Nouveau+Intel combo doesn't work because of [1] that says: > >>> > >>> "Refuse to fault imported pages. This should be handled (if at all) b= y > >>> redirecting mmap to the exporter." > >>> > >>> [1] > >>> https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/v5.19/source/drivers/gpu/drm/ttm/ttm= _bo_vm.c#L154 > >>> > >>> Interestingly, I noticed that there are IGT tests which check prime > >>> mmaping of Nouveau+Intel [2] (added 9 years ago), but they fail as we= ll, > >>> as expected. The fact that IGT has such tests is interesting because = it > >>> suggests that the mapping worked in the past. It's also surprising th= at > >>> nobody cared to fix the failing tests. For the reference, I checked > >>> v5.18 and today's linux-next. > >>> > >>> [2] > >>> https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/drm/igt-gpu-tools/-/blob/master/tests/= prime_nv_test.c#L132 > >>> > >>> Starting subtest: nv_write_i915_cpu_mmap_read > >>> Received signal SIGBUS. > >>> Stack trace: > >>> #0 [fatal_sig_handler+0x163] > >>> #1 [__sigaction+0x50] > >>> #2 [__igt_unique____real_main354+0x406] > >>> #3 [main+0x23] > >>> #4 [__libc_start_call_main+0x80] > >>> #5 [__libc_start_main+0x89] > >>> #6 [_start+0x25] > >>> Subtest nv_write_i915_cpu_mmap_read: CRASH (0,005s) > >>> > >>> Starting subtest: nv_write_i915_gtt_mmap_read > >>> Received signal SIGBUS. > >>> Stack trace: > >>> #0 [fatal_sig_handler+0x163] > >>> #1 [__sigaction+0x50] > >>> #2 [__igt_unique____real_main354+0x33d] > >>> #3 [main+0x23] > >>> #4 [__libc_start_call_main+0x80] > >>> #5 [__libc_start_main+0x89] > >>> #6 [_start+0x25] > >>> Subtest nv_write_i915_gtt_mmap_read: CRASH (0,004s) > >>> > >>> I'm curious about the Etnaviv driver because it uses own shmem > >>> implementation and maybe it has a working mmaping of imported GEMs si= nce > >>> it imports the dma-buf pages into Entaviv BO. Although, it should be > >>> risking to map pages using a different caching attributes (WC) from t= he > >>> exporter, which is prohibited on ARM ad then one may try to map impor= ted > >>> udmabuf. > > I see now that Etnaviv uses dma_buf_mmap(), so it should be okay. > > >>> Apparently, the Intel DG TTM driver should be able to map imported > >>> dma-buf because it sets TTM_TT_FLAG_EXTERNAL_MAPPABLE. > >> > >> Even with that flag set it is illegal to map the pages directly by an > >> importer. > >> > >> If that ever worked then the only real solution is to redirect mmap() > >> calls on importer BOs to dma_buf_mmap(). > > > > Yeah, I think this is the best option. Forcing userspace to hang on > > to the fd just in case someone calls readpix would be pretty harsh. > > Actually, I proposed this couple months ago [1]. > > [1] https://patchwork.freedesktop.org/patch/487481/ > > What's not clear to me is how userspace is supposed to sync CPU accesses > for imported GEMs. Either userspace need to use dma_buf_sync UAPI for > dmabuf of imported GEM or importer driver should do that, or there is > some other option? For anything involving the GPU, userspace already needs to sync access (ie. GPUs are asynchronous).. this is done using drm_gem_object::resv (which comes from dma_buf::resv).. Possibly we should require that dma_buf_begin_cpu_access()/dma_buf_end_cpu_access().. but in practice if the gl/vk driver needs CPU access it is to read the results of it's own GPU rendering. Disallow that and all of deqp/piglit/etc will break on systems where "window" surfaces are dma-buf imports (like android), which would be a rather unpopular outcome ;-) BR, -R