Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1765413AbXFRVTz (ORCPT ); Mon, 18 Jun 2007 17:19:55 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1762005AbXFRVTq (ORCPT ); Mon, 18 Jun 2007 17:19:46 -0400 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([66.187.233.31]:51470 "EHLO mx1.redhat.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1760491AbXFRVTp convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Mon, 18 Jun 2007 17:19:45 -0400 To: =?utf-8?Q?Hans-J=C3=BCrgen?= Koch Cc: Alan Cox , Ingo Molnar , Daniel Hazelton , Linus Torvalds , Greg KH , debian developer , david@lang.hm, Tarkan Erimer , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Andrew Morton , Chris Friesen , Bernd Schmidt , Robin Getz , Rob Landley , Bron Gondwana , Al Viro Subject: Re: mea culpa on the meaning of Tivoization References: <200706180922.26630.hjk@linutronix.de> <200706182144.06825.hjk@linutronix.de> From: Alexandre Oliva Organization: Red Hat OS Tools Group Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 18:18:04 -0300 In-Reply-To: <200706182144.06825.hjk@linutronix.de> (=?utf-8?Q?=22Hans-J?= =?utf-8?Q?=C3=BCrgen?= Koch"'s message of "Mon\, 18 Jun 2007 21\:44\:06 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.990 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1044 Lines: 23 On Jun 18, 2007, Hans-Jürgen Koch wrote: >> Vendor would be entitled to the benefit of the doubt as to the >> motivations in this case, so it would likely be unenforceable anyway. > Right. If GPL v3 comes out, there'll probably be a new task for > hardware development engineers: How to find excuses for hardware that > prevents software modifications and how to conceal the true intent. Yup. And then GPLv4 will have to plug whatever holes they find to disrespect users' freedoms. That's how I expect the game to be played. -- Alexandre Oliva http://www.lsd.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/ FSF Latin America Board Member http://www.fsfla.org/ Red Hat Compiler Engineer aoliva@{redhat.com, gcc.gnu.org} Free Software Evangelist oliva@{lsd.ic.unicamp.br, gnu.org} - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/