Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932790AbXFRVcV (ORCPT ); Mon, 18 Jun 2007 17:32:21 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1764272AbXFRVcL (ORCPT ); Mon, 18 Jun 2007 17:32:11 -0400 Received: from www.osadl.org ([213.239.205.134]:53652 "EHLO mail.tglx.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1764215AbXFRVcJ convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Mon, 18 Jun 2007 17:32:09 -0400 From: =?utf-8?q?Hans-J=C3=BCrgen_Koch?= Organization: Linutronix To: Alexandre Oliva Subject: Re: mea culpa on the meaning of Tivoization Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 23:31:19 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 Cc: Alan Cox , Ingo Molnar , Daniel Hazelton , Linus Torvalds , Greg KH , debian developer , david@lang.hm, Tarkan Erimer , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Andrew Morton , Chris Friesen , Bernd Schmidt , Robin Getz , Rob Landley , Bron Gondwana , Al Viro References: <200706182144.06825.hjk@linutronix.de> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200706182331.19571.hjk@linutronix.de> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1229 Lines: 30 Am Montag 18 Juni 2007 23:18 schrieb Alexandre Oliva: > On Jun 18, 2007, Hans-Jürgen Koch wrote: > > >> Vendor would be entitled to the benefit of the doubt as to the > >> motivations in this case, so it would likely be unenforceable anyway. > > > Right. If GPL v3 comes out, there'll probably be a new task for > > hardware development engineers: How to find excuses for hardware that > > prevents software modifications and how to conceal the true intent. > > Yup. And then GPLv4 will have to plug whatever holes they find to > disrespect users' freedoms. That's how I expect the game to be > played. > If you were right and it turned out that way, the whole GPL would become so ridiculous that it won't have any of its intended effects. GPLv17 would contain so many #ifdefs that it'll simply not be readable or understandable anymore. As far as the kernel is concerned, I expect the game's played by simply keeping GPLv2. And I like it that way. Hans - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/