Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 15:10:10 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 15:08:24 -0500 Received: from zero.tech9.net ([209.61.188.187]:51460 "EHLO zero.tech9.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 15:07:39 -0500 Subject: Re: [kbuild-devel] Converting the 2.5 kernel to kbuild 2.5 From: Robert Love To: Edward Muller Cc: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ra=FAlN=FA=F1ez?= de Arenas Coronado , esr@thyrsus.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: <1007495452.4621.7.camel@akira.learningpatterns.com> In-Reply-To: <1007495452.4621.7.camel@akira.learningpatterns.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Evolution/1.0 (Preview Release) Date: 04 Dec 2001 15:07:14 -0500 Message-Id: <1007496450.16169.20.camel@phantasy> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tue, 2001-12-04 at 14:50, Edward Muller wrote: > I've put python on my Compaq IPAQ (running linux) and with very few > amounts of tweaks it took up less 1 MB. And that's including gtk > bindings (no tk though) and just about the entire standard python > library. Someone else tried to do this with perl and they couldn't get > it under 3 MB IIRC. And IIRC, the current kernel build system requires > perl (I could be wrong, I'm just a watcher on this list, not a hacker). > So ... PYTHON IS NOT BLOATED. No, it doesn't require Perl. Its sh along with the standard Linux toolset. xconfig is Tk, but not binded to Perl. Regardless, I don't look at bloat as the issue -- who configures and compiles their kernel on an embedded device? More specifically, it is what the kernel hackers have available and want to use that is the requirement. This is partly why the whole "now your mom can easily configure her kernel" is a bs argument to me. Forget my mom..._I_ want things a certain way. My mom, if I ever forc^H^H^H^H get her to use Linux, will surely use the distro's kernel. Robert Love - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/