Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S933679AbXFRXkc (ORCPT ); Mon, 18 Jun 2007 19:40:32 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S932173AbXFRXkY (ORCPT ); Mon, 18 Jun 2007 19:40:24 -0400 Received: from dsl081-033-126.lax1.dsl.speakeasy.net ([64.81.33.126]:43409 "EHLO bifrost.lang.hm" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932113AbXFRXkY (ORCPT ); Mon, 18 Jun 2007 19:40:24 -0400 Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 16:39:20 -0700 (PDT) From: david@lang.hm X-X-Sender: dlang@asgard.lang.hm To: Johannes Stezenbach cc: Alexandre Oliva , Linus Torvalds , Al Viro , Bernd Schmidt , Alan Cox , Ingo Molnar , Daniel Hazelton , Greg KH , debian developer , Tarkan Erimer , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Andrew Morton Subject: Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3 In-Reply-To: <20070618232549.GA22170@linuxtv.org> Message-ID: References: <4673CA7C.5040207@t-online.de> <20070616181902.GB21478@ftp.linux.org.uk> <20070618155016.GA31892@linuxtv.org> <20070618232549.GA22170@linuxtv.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1299 Lines: 33 On Tue, 19 Jun 2007, Johannes Stezenbach wrote: > On Mon, Jun 18, 2007, Alexandre Oliva wrote: >> >> People talk a lot about TiVo here, but do they the faintest idea of >> how the conversations with TiVo are proceeding? I thought so... > > Oh, if you know something we don't, could you please fill us in? > And who was it who coined the "Tivoization" term, thus putting > TiVo into focus? what conversations are going on? Tivo checked years ago and were told that what they were going to do was Ok. I don't know thatanyone is talking too Tivo about anything. they are just screaming about how evil Tivo is at every public opportunity. David Lang >> But since the software is good, and moving to another software would be >> costly in various dimentions, the vendor has an incentive to stick with >> the software they have. but if regulations or other contracts require tamper-resistant hardware they have no choices other then to fork the existing GPLv2 versions or switch to alternate options for anything that switches to GPLv3 David Lang - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/