Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932929AbXFSAzq (ORCPT ); Mon, 18 Jun 2007 20:55:46 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1764210AbXFSAzj (ORCPT ); Mon, 18 Jun 2007 20:55:39 -0400 Received: from mu-out-0910.google.com ([209.85.134.184]:10836 "EHLO mu-out-0910.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1763900AbXFSAzi (ORCPT ); Mon, 18 Jun 2007 20:55:38 -0400 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=AkLJhZY5T3eXuk5qtRUjKlYiVxFzd+L6T6IWaT82bdsXLTkLt1TPq7Xiq7XrG6HgpL7GxUfomYlJ8WozyuyIWH3NP9ESJzEn9Cg4LGPACGo7fa01hCxveSO6VPP+qjX7kFK/V4bszD9UdMdxzckbnAmW8akixtytmPsyC2HQmTE= Message-ID: <32209efe0706181755r7ed8f99do811a9881379d8509@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 17:55:37 -0700 From: "Natalie Protasevich" To: "Martin Bligh" Subject: Re: How to improve the quality of the kernel? Cc: "Linus Torvalds" , "Fortier,Vincent [Montreal]" , "Andrew Morton" , "Stefan Richter" , "Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz" , "Adrian Bunk" , "Michal Piotrowski" , "Oleg Verych" , "Andi Kleen" , "Rafael J. Wysocki" , "Diego Calleja" , "Chuck Ebbert" , "Linux Kernel Mailing List" In-Reply-To: <4677268F.9070202@mbligh.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20070617220927.99ebc1ee.akpm@linux-foundation.org> <32209efe0706181531x5322533dr31dc90e6dd8c7973@mail.gmail.com> <46770A22.4020007@mbligh.org> <32209efe0706181556l2ed378f4sf520c3852f398fa4@mail.gmail.com> <46771C5D.10809@mbligh.org> <32209efe0706181724k26e0ee57laf9610b1834d4154@mail.gmail.com> <4677268F.9070202@mbligh.org> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 3185 Lines: 55 On 6/18/07, Martin Bligh wrote: > > Sure, simplicity is a key - but most of reporters on bugs are pretty > > professional folks (or very well rounded amateurs :) We can try still > > why not? the worst that can happen will be empty fields. > > mmm. added complexity and interface clutter for little or no benefit > is what I'm trying to avoid - they did that in the IBM bugzilla and > it turned into a big ugly unusable monster. You can call me either > "experienced" or "bitter" depending what mood you're in ;-) > > Not sure I'd agree that most of the bug submitters are all that > professional, it's a very mixed bag. > > > Maybe searching free text fields can then be implemented. Then every > > message exchange in bugzilla can be used for extracting such info - > > questions about HW specifics are asked a lot, almost in every one. > > It's a shame we cant' use this information. I was once searching for > > "VIA" and got "zero bugs found", but in reality there are hundreds! > > Probably something that makes sense to bring up with bugzilla project? > > That should work now ... seems to for me. > > http://bugzilla.kernel.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&long_desc_type=substring&long_desc=VIA&kernel_version_type=allwordssubstr&kernel_version=&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&bug_status=REJECTED&bug_status=DEFERRED&bug_status=NEEDINFO&bug_status=CLOSED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailcc2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=®ression=both&cmdtype=doit&order=Bug+Number&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= > > Produces a metric-buttload of results. Go to the advanced search option > and do "A Comment" contains the string "VIA". By default "Status" is > only set to do open bugs, which you might want to change to all types. Yes it works great! Thanks... I'd say this should be really a default search, because first search screen is misleading - it promises find all for any "words" :) > > > However, I've been working with other bugzillas (have to admit they > > were mostly company/corporate), where this was a required field that > > didn't seem to cause difficulties. I am planning to do some more > > research and get some more ideas from other bugzillas. I suppose we > > can have them discussed and revised sometime. > > Would be good, thanks. I tend to favour keeping things as simple as > possible though, we have very little control over our users, and they're > a very broad base. Making the barrier to entry for use as low as > possible is the design we've been pursuing. Actually, as long as search above is possible - it is going to work. I must say the new bugzilla interface is very nice in general, and well designed and easy to use. --Natalie - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/