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From:   Nathan Lynch <nathanl@linux.ibm.com>
To:     Michal =?utf-8?Q?Such=C3=A1nek?= <msuchanek@suse.de>
Cc:     Laurent Dufour <ldufour@linux.ibm.com>,
        Tyrel Datwyler <tyreld@linux.ibm.com>,
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        Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>, Lee@kitsune.suse.cz,
        Chun-Yi <jlee@suse.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] powerpc/pseries: add lparctl driver for
 platform-specific functions
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Date:   Tue, 13 Sep 2022 10:59:56 -0500
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Michal Such=C3=A1nek <msuchanek@suse.de> writes:

> On Fri, Aug 12, 2022 at 02:14:21PM -0500, Nathan Lynch wrote:
>> Laurent Dufour <ldufour@linux.ibm.com> writes:
>> > Le 30/07/2022 =C3=A0 02:04, Nathan Lynch a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:
>> >> +static long lparctl_get_sysparm(struct lparctl_get_system_parameter =
__user *argp)
>> >> +{
>> >> +	struct lparctl_get_system_parameter *gsp;
>> >> +	long ret;
>> >> +	int fwrc;
>> >> +
>> >> +	/*
>> >> +	 * Special case to allow user space to probe the command.
>> >> +	 */
>> >> +	if (argp =3D=3D NULL)
>> >> +		return 0;
>> >> +
>> >> +	gsp =3D memdup_user(argp, sizeof(*gsp));
>> >> +	if (IS_ERR(gsp)) {
>> >> +		ret =3D PTR_ERR(gsp);
>> >> +		goto err_return;
>> >> +	}
>> >> +
>> >> +	ret =3D -EINVAL;
>> >> +	if (gsp->rtas_status !=3D 0)
>> >> +		goto err_free;
>> >> +
>> >> +	do {
>> >> +		static_assert(sizeof(gsp->data) <=3D sizeof(rtas_data_buf));
>> >> +
>> >> +		spin_lock(&rtas_data_buf_lock);
>> >> +		memset(rtas_data_buf, 0, sizeof(rtas_data_buf));
>> >> +		memcpy(rtas_data_buf, gsp->data, sizeof(gsp->data));
>> >> +		fwrc =3D rtas_call(rtas_token("ibm,get-system-parameter"), 3, 1,
>> >> +				 NULL, gsp->token, __pa(rtas_data_buf),
>> >> +				 sizeof(gsp->data));
>> >> +		if (fwrc =3D=3D 0)
>> >> +			memcpy(gsp->data, rtas_data_buf, sizeof(gsp->data));
>> >
>> > May be the amount of data copied out to the user space could be
>> > gsp->length. This would prevent copying 4K bytes all the time.
>> >
>> > In a more general way, the size of the RTAS buffer is quite big, and I=
'm
>> > wondering if all the data need to be copied back and forth to the kern=
el.
>> >
>> > Unless there are a high frequency of calls this doesn't make sense, and
>> > keeping the code simple might be the best way. Otherwise limiting the =
bytes
>> > copied could help a bit.
>>=20
>> This is not intended to be a high-bandwidth interface and I don't think
>> there's much of a performance concern here, so I'd rather just keep the
>> copy sizes involved constant.
>
> But that's absolutely horrible!

?

> The user wants the VPD data, all of it. And you only give one page with
> this interface.

The code here is for system parameters, which have a known maximum size,
unlike VPD. There's no code for VPD retrieval in this patch.

But I'm happy to constructively discuss how a VPD ioctl interface should
work.

> Worse, the call is not reentrant so you need to lock against other users
> calling the call while the current caller is retrieving the inidividual
> pagaes.
>
> You could do that per process, but then processes with userspace
> threading would want the data as well so you would have to save the
> arguments of the last call, and compare to arguments of any subsequent
> call to determine if you can let it pass or block.
>
> And when you do all that there will be a process that retrieves a couple
> of pages and goes out for lunch or loses interest completely, blocking
> out everyone from accessing the interface at all.

Right, the ibm,get-vpd RTAS function is tricky to expose to user space.

It needs to be called repeatedly until all data has been returned, 4KB
at a time.

Only one ibm,get-vpd sequence can be in progress at any time. If an
ibm,get-vpd sequence is begun while another sequence is already
outstanding, the first one is invalidated -- I would guess -1 or some
other error is returned on its next call.

So a new system-call level interface for VPD retrieval probably should
not expose the repeating sequence-based nature of the RTAS function to
user space, to prevent concurrent clients from interfering with each
other. That implies that the kernel should buffer the VPD results
internally; at least that's the only idea I've had so far. Open to
other suggestions.