Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1759824AbXFSRuv (ORCPT ); Tue, 19 Jun 2007 13:50:51 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1758070AbXFSRun (ORCPT ); Tue, 19 Jun 2007 13:50:43 -0400 Received: from mail1.webmaster.com ([216.152.64.169]:1994 "EHLO mail1.webmaster.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1757993AbXFSRum (ORCPT ); Tue, 19 Jun 2007 13:50:42 -0400 From: "David Schwartz" To: "Nicolas Mailhot" Cc: Subject: RE: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3 Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 10:50:30 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <1182269164.19218.3.camel@rousalka.dyndns.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Importance: Normal X-Authenticated-Sender: joelkatz@webmaster.com X-Spam-Processed: mail1.webmaster.com, Tue, 19 Jun 2007 10:51:07 -0700 (not processed: message from trusted or authenticated source) X-MDRemoteIP: 206.171.168.138 X-Return-Path: davids@webmaster.com X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Reply-To: davids@webmaster.com X-MDAV-Processed: mail1.webmaster.com, Tue, 19 Jun 2007 10:51:07 -0700 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1417 Lines: 35 > > The GPL was never about allowing you to load modified software > > onto hardware > > where the legitimate creators/owners of that hardware say, "no, > > you may not > > modify the software running on this hardware". > Good try but you had to add creators there so the sentence actually > supported your opinion. It's still an obvious alien insert. It's simply shorter than saying "owners of the right or ability to decide what software runs on that hardware". The right to control the hardware vests originally with its owner/creator. Tivo does not in fact transfer that right to the purchasers of their hardware. (You can agree or disagree with this, but I don't think you can coherently deny that they don't.) The point is that GPL rights always applied equally to all hardware. Special rights to run software on particular pieces of hardware are completely alien to the original spirit of the GPL. Someone has to decide what software runs on what hardware, and who makes that decision can differ from the owner of the hardware for any number of legitimate reasons. (And, IMO, for illegitimate reasons in the case of Tivo, but that's not the issue here.) DS - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/