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[2620:137:e000::1:20]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id c32-20020a634e20000000b004351767fc78si18922365pgb.874.2022.09.15.08.17.35; Thu, 15 Sep 2022 08:17:47 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 2620:137:e000::1:20 as permitted sender) client-ip=2620:137:e000::1:20; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 2620:137:e000::1:20 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S229937AbiIOOd0 (ORCPT + 99 others); Thu, 15 Sep 2022 10:33:26 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:48156 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S229695AbiIOOdX (ORCPT ); Thu, 15 Sep 2022 10:33:23 -0400 X-Greylist: delayed 1393 seconds by postgrey-1.37 at lindbergh.monkeyblade.net; Thu, 15 Sep 2022 07:33:21 PDT Received: from ganesha.gnumonks.org (ganesha.gnumonks.org [IPv6:2001:780:45:1d:225:90ff:fe52:c662]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A04E28980F for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2022 07:33:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from uucp by ganesha.gnumonks.org with local-bsmtp (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1oYpZ6-009Bko-MN; Thu, 15 Sep 2022 16:10:04 +0200 Received: from laforge by localhost.localdomain with local (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from ) id 1oYpUT-001NPd-0g; Thu, 15 Sep 2022 16:05:17 +0200 Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2022 16:05:17 +0200 From: Harald Welte To: Arnd Bergmann Cc: Hyunwoo Kim , Greg Kroah-Hartman , Ilpo =?iso-8859-1?Q?J=E4rvinen?= , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Dominik Brodowski , Paul Fulghum , akpm@osdl.org, Lubomir Rintel Subject: Re: [PATCH] pcmcia: synclink_cs: Fix use-after-free in mgslpc_ioctl() Message-ID: References: <20220913052020.GA85241@ubuntu> <20220915020834.GA110086@ubuntu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on lindbergh.monkeyblade.net Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Hi Arnd, On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 09:35:51AM +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote: > There is a good chance that we can remove both now, along with the > synclink_cs. The scr24x driver is from 2016, but of course the > hardware is much older. The cm4040/cm4000 drivers are from 2005. > My guess is that the hardware still exists in actively used systems, > but none of them get upgraded to modern kernels any more. It is probably true. But the same argument can be made about all of the PCMCIA drivers. It's been a long time since any new mass-market hardware with PCMCIA slots has been produced. Even if you count in the (non-express) cardbus, the same argument holds true. I personally haven't used any of those cm4000/cm4040 in ages. But what particularly the last decade of my professional career has taught me: There are typically always more users of legacy tech out there than you would imagine. The question is whether those users are relevant enough for today's kernel maintainers to care. This isn't meant to sound bitter - I'm just stating facts. It can be a valid "developer resource economic" decision to not care. Regards, Harald -- - Harald Welte http://laforge.gnumonks.org/ ============================================================================ "Privacy in residential applications is a desirable marketing option." (ETSI EN 300 175-7 Ch. A6)