Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1756997AbXFSVIS (ORCPT ); Tue, 19 Jun 2007 17:08:18 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1753550AbXFSVIL (ORCPT ); Tue, 19 Jun 2007 17:08:11 -0400 Received: from dsl081-033-126.lax1.dsl.speakeasy.net ([64.81.33.126]:50004 "EHLO bifrost.lang.hm" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753386AbXFSVIK (ORCPT ); Tue, 19 Jun 2007 17:08:10 -0400 Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 14:07:18 -0700 (PDT) From: david@lang.hm X-X-Sender: dlang@asgard.lang.hm To: Alexandre Oliva cc: Daniel Drake , Bron Gondwana , Ingo Molnar , Alan Cox , Daniel Hazelton , Linus Torvalds , Greg KH , debian developer , Tarkan Erimer , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Andrew Morton Subject: Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <20070614235004.GA14952@elte.hu> <20070615041149.GA6741@brong.net> <20070615072322.GA7594@brong.net> <20070616021630.GA30660@brong.net> <20070616103130.GD32405@brong.net> <20070616233251.GA17270@brong.net> <46774BD3.6010605@gentoo.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1364 Lines: 38 On Tue, 19 Jun 2007, Alexandre Oliva wrote: > On Jun 19, 2007, Daniel Drake wrote: > >> I realise that the latest GPLv3 draft would not pose restrictions >> here, as such devices would not be classified as consumer >> products. > > And even if they were, there's always ROM. > > I don't know whether hardware seals that state "once you break this > seal, law prohibits the use of this device with human patients". once you break the seal the device is no longer certified. an uncertified device cannot be used. this is very common (in some areas it's widely ignored, in others it isn't) this is just like the 'you void the warranty if you disrupt this sticker' stickers that you see on just about any hardware you buy today. some vendors are stickers for this, others don't really care. David Lang > Then the restriction is not being imposed by the manufacturer, only by > law, and this does make lot of a difference as far as software freedom > is concerned. > > But then, law might not find this to be enough. Software patents are > not the only stupid law that harms Free Software :-( > > - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/