Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1757357AbXFSVKv (ORCPT ); Tue, 19 Jun 2007 17:10:51 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1753124AbXFSVKn (ORCPT ); Tue, 19 Jun 2007 17:10:43 -0400 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([66.187.233.31]:44490 "EHLO mx1.redhat.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752960AbXFSVKm (ORCPT ); Tue, 19 Jun 2007 17:10:42 -0400 To: david@lang.hm Cc: Daniel Hazelton , Linus Torvalds , Al Viro , Bernd Schmidt , Alan Cox , Ingo Molnar , Greg KH , debian developer , Tarkan Erimer , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Andrew Morton Subject: Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3 References: <200706190221.09067.dhazelton@enter.net> From: Alexandre Oliva Organization: Red Hat OS Tools Group Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 18:09:17 -0300 In-Reply-To: (david@lang.hm's message of "Tue\, 19 Jun 2007 12\:42\:06 -0700 \(PDT\)") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.990 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1299 Lines: 33 On Jun 19, 2007, david@lang.hm wrote: > based on my experiance looking at the software released for tivos, I > think you are over-estimating these numbers. if there are more then a > dozen people producing things that are good enough to be useful and > releasing their results as opensource software I would be surprised. Yup. And how many more would there be should it not be tivoized? More hackers would buy the devices, a number of them with the explicit intent and interest in modifying the software in it. You're losing all that. > and for all that the FSF is claiming that tivos can't being modified > it's really not that hard to change. But is it legal? How many would contribute changes to a list where there are TiVo people watching, which might expose these contributors to liabilities? -- Alexandre Oliva http://www.lsd.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/ FSF Latin America Board Member http://www.fsfla.org/ Red Hat Compiler Engineer aoliva@{redhat.com, gcc.gnu.org} Free Software Evangelist oliva@{lsd.ic.unicamp.br, gnu.org} - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/