Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1759528AbXFSWwS (ORCPT ); Tue, 19 Jun 2007 18:52:18 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1756299AbXFSWv5 (ORCPT ); Tue, 19 Jun 2007 18:51:57 -0400 Received: from dsl081-033-126.lax1.dsl.speakeasy.net ([64.81.33.126]:41957 "EHLO bifrost.lang.hm" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1755826AbXFSWv4 (ORCPT ); Tue, 19 Jun 2007 18:51:56 -0400 Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 15:50:33 -0700 (PDT) From: david@lang.hm X-X-Sender: dlang@asgard.lang.hm To: Alexandre Oliva cc: Daniel Hazelton , Linus Torvalds , Al Viro , Bernd Schmidt , Alan Cox , Ingo Molnar , Greg KH , debian developer , Tarkan Erimer , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Andrew Morton Subject: Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <200706190221.09067.dhazelton@enter.net> <200706190258.56955.dhazelton@enter.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1533 Lines: 41 On Tue, 19 Jun 2007, Alexandre Oliva wrote: > On Jun 19, 2007, david@lang.hm wrote: > >> On Tue, 19 Jun 2007, Alexandre Oliva wrote: >>> >>> Once again, now with clearer starting conditions (not intended to >>> match TiVo in any way, BTW; don't get into that distraction) >>> >>> >>> Vendor doesn't care about tivoizing, their business works the same >>> either way. >>> >>> Vendor's employees will contribute the same, one way or another, so >>> their contributions are out of the equation. > >> no, this is what you are missing. > > No, this is just one of many possible situations. > > You're just thinking of a different scenario, in which tivoization is > important for the tivoizer. We'll get to that. > > Please be patient. Don't get the illusion that you're disputing or > weakening the argument with these statements. Disputing premises of a > logical inference is pointless as far as disputing a larger argument > that this particular lemma would be a part of. if a company doesn't care about tivoizing then they won't do it, it takes time and money to tivoize some product and it will cause headaches for the company. their reasons for wanting to tivoize a product may be faulty, but they think that the reasons are valid or they wouldn't go to the effort. David Lang - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/