Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1761592AbXFTHHg (ORCPT ); Wed, 20 Jun 2007 03:07:36 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1756775AbXFTHH3 (ORCPT ); Wed, 20 Jun 2007 03:07:29 -0400 Received: from mail1.webmaster.com ([216.152.64.169]:1714 "EHLO mail1.webmaster.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1756122AbXFTHH2 (ORCPT ); Wed, 20 Jun 2007 03:07:28 -0400 From: "David Schwartz" To: Subject: RE: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3 Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 00:07:08 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <161717d50706192034l65287cfct58410f6887ec33a3@mail.gmail.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 X-Authenticated-Sender: joelkatz@webmaster.com X-Spam-Processed: mail1.webmaster.com, Wed, 20 Jun 2007 00:07:39 -0700 (not processed: message from trusted or authenticated source) X-MDRemoteIP: 206.171.168.138 X-Return-Path: davids@webmaster.com X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Reply-To: davids@webmaster.com X-MDAV-Processed: mail1.webmaster.com, Wed, 20 Jun 2007 00:07:39 -0700 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1230 Lines: 27 > Much as I hate to extend the life of this execrable thread, since I > think Alexandre makes Sisyphus look like a hard-nosed pragmatist, it > seems pretty clear that TiVO impinges "[my] freedom to run the > program, for any purpose" if "any purpose" includes "make my TiVO do > what I want," and likewise to "adapt it to [my] needs" -- freedoms 0 > and part of 1. It is just disingenuous to argue otherwise. > > Dave The freedom to "run the program, for any purpose" is just as much violated by Microsoft when they make the Xbox. You can't run the Linux kernel on that either, for the exact same reasons you can't run a modified Linux kernel on the Tivo. It is manifestly obvious that the "freedom to run the program for any purpose" must be limited to those pieces of hardware where you are the one who decides what hardware runs on that software. (And GPL rights were always applicable equally to all hardware in the universe, not specially to some hardware and not others.) DS - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/