Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1759335AbXFTMH6 (ORCPT ); Wed, 20 Jun 2007 08:07:58 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1754246AbXFTMHx (ORCPT ); Wed, 20 Jun 2007 08:07:53 -0400 Received: from [212.12.190.77] ([212.12.190.77]:33189 "EHLO raad.intranet" rhost-flags-FAIL-FAIL-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753718AbXFTMHw (ORCPT ); Wed, 20 Jun 2007 08:07:52 -0400 From: Al Boldi To: david@lang.hm Subject: Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3 Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 15:05:49 +0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 Cc: Scott Preece , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org References: <200706200157.20527.a1426z@gawab.com> <200706200630.57460.a1426z@gawab.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200706201505.49740.a1426z@gawab.com> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1994 Lines: 51 david@lang.hm wrote: > On Wed, 20 Jun 2007, Al Boldi wrote: > > Scott Preece wrote: > >> On 6/19/07, Al Boldi wrote: > >>> Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > >>>> Tivo didn't make the Linux success. More Tivos can definitely undo > >>>> it. > >>> > >>> I don't think so. > >>> > >>> First, it's not Linux that made success, but rather GNU that uses > >>> Linux as its kernel. And, believe it or not, when people say Linux, > >>> they really mean GNU. People could care less what kernel they were > >>> running, as long as the system is up and runs the procs that offer > >>> their services. > >> > >> --- > >> > >> Actually, for use in devices (like TiVos or cell phones), it is very > >> definitely the kernel that is of interest. Many such devices use > >> little or no GNU software (some manufacturers have consciously avoided > >> it because of the possibility of shifts like the GPLv3 changes). > > > > Sure, but was it Linux in embedded devices that made Linux what it is > > today, or was it GNU/Linux? > > if it was the GNU that made linux what it is today and the linux kernel > mearly an oppurtunist then the GNU/Hurd, GNU/Solaris, GNU/BSD and for that > matter GNU/Microsoft distributions should be steadily and quickly gaining > marketshare They may never reach critical mass, as GNU/Linux already crossed that border. Their only hope may possibly be a drop-in kernel replacement to leverage the vast availability of GNU/Linux distributions. So what's this got to do with the GPLv2/v3 debate? It's the seemingly fair GPLv2 that was possibly instrumental in growing this large GNU/Linux community, and changing this fairness by hampering parties to enter this community may well be counterproductive. Thanks! -- Al - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/