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[2620:137:e000::1:20]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id hq42-20020a1709073f2a00b00774195db4e7si15366631ejc.117.2022.09.19.04.07.21; Mon, 19 Sep 2022 04:07:46 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 2620:137:e000::1:20 as permitted sender) client-ip=2620:137:e000::1:20; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@intel.com header.s=Intel header.b=QJf+AzsX; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 2620:137:e000::1:20 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=intel.com Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S229547AbiISKsy (ORCPT + 99 others); Mon, 19 Sep 2022 06:48:54 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:37516 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S229923AbiISKsS (ORCPT ); Mon, 19 Sep 2022 06:48:18 -0400 Received: from mga03.intel.com (mga03.intel.com [134.134.136.65]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5AFA82BB22; Mon, 19 Sep 2022 03:38:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=intel.com; i=@intel.com; q=dns/txt; s=Intel; t=1663583893; x=1695119893; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references: mime-version:in-reply-to; bh=QUXNODpHWWXFuaNAMOBGNqeZoPBldKbO43TQb66rI7E=; b=QJf+AzsXVK0+Bz2DViPkEClklvc5AVCQjgyi6QGDu//lF+wxb//Cfvcg pzC2FGS+LwitX7L/EQrT+zBe/gEWWqMYNLFHR7RxDhZFJYyeUHP77q/qT p3tSfNaY8LeLTAtHKKdg4YfNBqrsXR//uUEaBpvSBcEKsqwrcLCa9AUdB MGOXOyGsan9SJPoiBFIOnHJye1E/2A3E1qFvk7LNcOPWm3gZr1rBreReq lo6au7BqGBQyK2IGniKowwXTYCvUAXpocBDTErqIfQWoTfne/3/O06JsM gDqpO24eQtVynKy6vWY0kJ492exfm6h9nW3vQXrzkokdQogt4xcVlnyvL Q==; X-IronPort-AV: E=McAfee;i="6500,9779,10474"; a="300736655" X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.93,327,1654585200"; d="scan'208";a="300736655" Received: from orsmga008.jf.intel.com ([10.7.209.65]) by orsmga103.jf.intel.com with ESMTP/TLS/ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 19 Sep 2022 03:38:12 -0700 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.93,327,1654585200"; d="scan'208";a="649093245" Received: from punajuuri.fi.intel.com (HELO paasikivi.fi.intel.com) ([10.237.72.43]) by orsmga008-auth.jf.intel.com with ESMTP/TLS/ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 19 Sep 2022 03:38:09 -0700 Received: from paasikivi.fi.intel.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by paasikivi.fi.intel.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 2AFB920238; Mon, 19 Sep 2022 13:31:02 +0300 (EEST) Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2022 10:31:02 +0000 From: Sakari Ailus To: Mikhail Rudenko Cc: Dave Stevenson , Mauro Carvalho Chehab , Rob Herring , Krzysztof Kozlowski , Hans Verkuil , Jacopo Mondi , Shawn Tu , Jimmy Su , Arnd Bergmann , Arec Kao , Laurent Pinchart , Marek Vasut , linux-media@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/2] Add Omnivision OV4689 image sensor driver Message-ID: References: <20220911200147.375198-1-mike.rudenko@gmail.com> <87czbwp9xx.fsf@gmail.com> <87wn9zreic.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87wn9zreic.fsf@gmail.com> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIMWL_WL_HIGH, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_EF,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on lindbergh.monkeyblade.net Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Hi Mikhail, On Mon, Sep 19, 2022 at 10:01:06AM +0300, Mikhail Rudenko wrote: > > Hi Sakari, > > On 2022-09-19 at 06:40 GMT, Sakari Ailus wrote: > > > Hi Mikhail, > > > > On Fri, Sep 16, 2022 at 12:27:42AM +0300, Mikhail Rudenko wrote: > >> > >> Hi Dave, > >> > >> On 2022-09-14 at 10:58 +01, Dave Stevenson wrote: > >> > Hi Mikhail > >> > > >> > On Sun, 11 Sept 2022 at 21:02, Mikhail Rudenko wrote: > >> >> > >> >> Hello, > >> >> > >> >> this series implements support for Omnivision OV4689 image > >> >> sensor. The Omnivision OV4689 is a high performance, 1/3-inch, 4 > >> >> megapixel image sensor. Ihis chip supports high frame rate speeds up > >> >> to 90 fps at 2688x1520 resolution. It is programmable through an I2C > >> >> interface, and sensor output is sent via 1/2/4 lane MIPI CSI-2 > >> >> connection. > >> >> > >> >> The driver is based on Rockchip BSP kernel [1]. It implements 4-lane CSI-2 > >> >> and single 2688x1520 @ 30 fps mode. The driver was tested on Rockchip > >> >> 3399-based FriendlyElec NanoPi M4 board with MCAM400 camera > >> >> module. > >> >> While porting the driver, I stumbled upon two issues: > [snip] > >> >> (2) The original driver exposes analog gain range 0x0 - 0x7ff, but the > >> >> gain is not linear across that range. Instead, it is piecewise linear > >> >> (and discontinuous). 0x0-0xff register values result in 0x-2x gain, > >> >> 0x100-0x1ff to 0x-4x, 0x300-0x3ff to 0x-8x, and 0x700-0x7ff to 0x-16x, > >> >> with more linear segments in between. Rockchip's camera engine code > >> >> chooses one of the above segments depenging on the desired gain > >> >> value. The question is, how should we proceed keeping in mind > >> >> libcamera use case? Should the whole 0x0-0x7ff be exposed as-is and > >> >> libcamera will do the mapping, or the driver will do the mapping > >> >> itself and expose some logical gain units not tied to the actual gain > >> >> register value? Meanwhile, this driver conservatively exposes only > >> >> 0x0-0xf8 gain register range. > >> > > >> > The datasheet linked above says "for the gain formula, please contact > >> > your local OmniVision FAE" :-( > >> > I would assume that the range is from 1x rather than 0x - people > >> > rarely want a totally black image that 0x would give. Or is it ranges > >> > of 1x - 2x, 2x - 4x, 4x - 8x, and 8x - 16x? > >> > >> A picture is worth a thousand words, so I've attached the results of my > >> experimentation with the gain register. They were obtained with Rockchip > >> 3399, with AEC, AGC and black level subtraction disabled. The image was > >> converted from 10-bit RGGB to 8-bit YUV 4:2:0 by the Rockchip ISP. > > > > Based on that it looks like their medication may have been a little too > > strong. > > > > Could this be implemented so that the control value would be linear linear > > but its range would correspond 1x--16x values? > > > > libcamera will be able to cope with that. > > > > According to the following fragment of the Rockchip camera engine sensor > configuration file for ov4689 [1] > > > [1 2 128 0 1 128 255 > 2 4 64 -248 1 376 504 > 4 8 32 -756 1 884 1012 > 8 16 16 -1784 1 1912 2040] > , > > it uses gain register value range 128-255 for gain 1x-2x, 376-504 for > gain 2x-4x, 884-1024 for 4x-8x, and 1912-2040 for 8x-16x. Do you suggest > to implement this calculation in the sensor driver and expose some > linear "logical" gain to userspace (ranging, e.g., 128-2048 for gains > 1x-16x)? Yes. This way the user space can somehow work without knowing this special implementation, even though the granularity changes over the range. I guess the granularity would need to be known in libcamera but that's a separate issue. -- Sakari Ailus