Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753812AbXFTQwQ (ORCPT ); Wed, 20 Jun 2007 12:52:16 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751833AbXFTQwB (ORCPT ); Wed, 20 Jun 2007 12:52:01 -0400 Received: from gateway12.iders.ca ([206.45.72.61]:56281 "EHLO koko.iders.ca" rhost-flags-OK-FAIL-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751337AbXFTQwA (ORCPT ); Wed, 20 Jun 2007 12:52:00 -0400 X-Greylist: delayed 1456 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at vger.kernel.org; Wed, 20 Jun 2007 12:52:00 EDT Message-ID: <4679557C.5080907@iders.ca> Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 11:27:40 -0500 From: Andrew McKay User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20061219) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alexandre Oliva CC: Linus Torvalds , Al Viro , Bernd Schmidt , Alan Cox , Ingo Molnar , Daniel Hazelton , Greg KH , debian developer , david@lang.hm, Tarkan Erimer , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Andrew Morton Subject: Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3 References: <20070614195517.GA4933@elte.hu> <20070614235004.GA14952@elte.hu> <20070615011012.6c09066e@the-village.bc.nu> <20070615012623.GA25189@elte.hu> <20070615101007.0cbfd078@the-village.bc.nu> <4673CA7C.5040207@t-online.de> <20070616181902.GB21478@ftp.linux.org.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1698 Lines: 33 > No, I'm not. You can say tivoization is *good* however much you like. > This doesn't dispute in any way my claim that no tivoization would be > *better*, that you'd get contributions from the people that, because > of tivoization, don't feel compelled to develop and contribute, > because they can't use the fruits of their efforts in the device where > they would be most useful for them. > I know I'm jumping in to this conversation in the middle and a few days behind, but that's one of the biggest fallacies in the open source communities. First of all more system developers contribute to the community than end users do. Secondly GPLv3 will cause companies like TIVO, router companies, security companies to not adopt Linux as an operating system, because they can't secure their system. Placing code in a ROM so they can't upgrade their own systems is an absolute joke, and not a viable option. In the end, GPLV3 will cause less contribution to the Linux Kernel community. Systems developers won't be choosing Linux and directly contributing to Kernel development while developing their product. Fewer products on the market will use linux, so even end users, who really don't contribute a lot, won't be contributing either. I'm not going to address whether GPLv3 changed the spirit of GPLv2, but saying that licensing the Linux Kernel under GPLv3 will result in more contributions is absolute BS. Andrew McKay Iders Inc. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/