Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1756747AbXFTRLp (ORCPT ); Wed, 20 Jun 2007 13:11:45 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1753764AbXFTRLh (ORCPT ); Wed, 20 Jun 2007 13:11:37 -0400 Received: from outpipe-village-512-1.bc.nu ([81.2.110.250]:36324 "EHLO the-village.bc.nu" rhost-flags-OK-FAIL-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753252AbXFTRLg (ORCPT ); Wed, 20 Jun 2007 13:11:36 -0400 Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 18:16:26 +0100 From: Alan Cox To: "Dave Neuer" Cc: "Linus Torvalds" , "Helge Hafting" , "Alexandre Oliva" , "Daniel Hazelton" , "Chris Friesen" , "Paul Mundt" , "Lennart Sorensen" , "Greg KH" , "debian developer" , "david@lang.hm" , "Tarkan Erimer" , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, "Andrew Morton" , mingo@elte.hu Subject: Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3 Message-ID: <20070620181626.1e70b4f0@the-village.bc.nu> In-Reply-To: <161717d50706200958o53ae986fv635e18b9b6a17e85@mail.gmail.com> References: <4671B734.1040401@nortel.com> <200706142155.34298.dhazelton@enter.net> <46791A35.4000009@aitel.hist.no> <161717d50706200958o53ae986fv635e18b9b6a17e85@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.9.1 (GTK+ 2.10.8; i386-redhat-linux-gnu) Organization: Red Hat UK Cyf., Amberley Place, 107-111 Peascod Street, Windsor, Berkshire, SL4 1TE, Y Deyrnas Gyfunol. Cofrestrwyd yng Nghymru a Lloegr o'r rhif cofrestru 3798903 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1455 Lines: 29 > constraints it's valid for a copyright holder to try to enforce w/ a > license -- I think it's immoral for an employer to force an employee > to toil at a meaningless, soul-crushing job for the vast majority of > one's single, short existence if they could make it more enjoyable, > but I'd hate to see someone try to enforce that with a license (I'm > happy telling a person in that situation to "just quit" just as you > tell people "just don't buy it"). To call people who draw the line in > a different place than you hypocrites is BS. Very poor example. In many parts of the world "Just quit" is "just starve to death". And guess what - brand owners do use the rights to try and stop that kind of abuse with varying degrees of success. The 'fair trade' logo is controlled this way. Many companies do their best not to license production of goods to sweat shops and child slaves. It's considered morally correct and companies get pounded by the public and lose business when they fail to police these restrictions. So please DON'T equate the two. Tivo is a minor control argument about a silly little TV recording box. Employee rights is a matter of life, death and slavery for many many people. Alan - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/