Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1758700AbXFTSKs (ORCPT ); Wed, 20 Jun 2007 14:10:48 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1752398AbXFTSKj (ORCPT ); Wed, 20 Jun 2007 14:10:39 -0400 Received: from py-out-1112.google.com ([64.233.166.183]:47867 "EHLO py-out-1112.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752196AbXFTSKi (ORCPT ); Wed, 20 Jun 2007 14:10:38 -0400 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=j5mI7ldHEZqGNWLqbkG6w9vV9rG7sc98PGxlCq7W7e86vxIsRdyDqClgZsauc5bVfJMX/tl/PltcKNwY6WlQxqHSpDeEo3Q+HY8T94VcGRhMlf3HHd6IjDOLK7HKDL92UaoBOXtQS9MoAl+KsoQ7cFu1NK4C3NYtx7M/T3v5HxA= Message-ID: <2e6659dd0706201110x20fa5c28n5d6fc094e9f5c832@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 15:10:37 -0300 From: "Tomas Neme" To: "Linux-Kernel@Vger. Kernel. Org" Subject: Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3 In-Reply-To: <9a8748490706201034j43139301w5a18c172d688c724@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <9a8748490706201034j43139301w5a18c172d688c724@mail.gmail.com> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1459 Lines: 34 I have been following this discussion for the last week or so, and what I haven't been able to figure out is what the hell is the big deal with TiVO doing whatever they want to with their stupid design. They made a design, they build a machine, they sell it as is, and provide source code for GPL'ed software... what's your problem? In order to play backuped games in, say, a PS2 I need to modify it's hardware. Gut it up, solder some cables to a chip that will bypass the signature key reading in the CD/DVDs. It's legal to mod it (it's my hardware, I paid for it) although it voids my warranty. It's also legal to copy the games (where I live) if I own the original, but we're no talking about DMR here. Not exactly Now, I'm sure some alike modification can be made to "help" TiVO bypassing the signature key check... and I'm sure it's legal. Again, what is your problem? Linus said it already, but TiVO has seen himself FORCED to protect its software for the very same reason Microsoft had to uncanningly overhead EVERYTHING in Vista: the Media (Fox, Universal, Etcetera) companies forced them too. But this is just a comment.. the thing is that I really can't see the problem T -- |_|0|_| |_|_|0| |0|0|0| - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/