Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 19:07:38 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 19:07:28 -0500 Received: from sproxy.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]:48572 "HELO mail.gmx.net") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id ; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 19:07:25 -0500 Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 01:07:18 +0100 From: Rene Rebe To: Richard Gooch Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, andre@linux-ide.org Subject: Re: IDE controller detection 2.4 +devfs Message-Id: <20011205010718.7c964efd.rene.rebe@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <200111300210.fAU2AqU06657@vindaloo.ras.ucalgary.ca> In-Reply-To: <20011130001138.78ab1242.rene.rebe@gmx.net> <200111300017.fAU0Hx704241@vindaloo.ras.ucalgary.ca> <20011130012752.0fd5380a.rene.rebe@gmx.net> <200111300034.fAU0YB904723@vindaloo.ras.ucalgary.ca> <20011130015538.68b09e03.rene.rebe@gmx.net> <200111300111.fAU1BLR05033@vindaloo.ras.ucalgary.ca> <20011130022637.290ad791.rene.rebe@gmx.net> <200111300210.fAU2AqU06657@vindaloo.ras.ucalgary.ca> Organization: FreeSourceCommunity ;-) X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.6.5 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i586-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Are there any new results or comments regarding this issue ?? On Thu, 29 Nov 2001 19:10:52 -0700 Richard Gooch wrote: > Rene Rebe writes: > > On Thu, 29 Nov 2001 18:11:21 -0700 > > Richard Gooch wrote: > > > > > But it is actually predictable, isn't it? Think of it this way: the > > > IDE subsystem reserves "slots" (host numbers) for installed hardware. > > > If a piece of hardware is disabled in the BIOS, it doesn't mean that > > > the slot won't be reserved. > > > > It would be nice if it would be that way - se below. > > > > > > (All info from my very first mail ...) > > > > > > > > The other bug is: On a Athlon-600 workstation based on an Irongate > > > > board (Asus-K7M) I have to disable the first (primarry) channel of > > > > the onbaord IDE controller, because it has problem with the UDMA-66 > > > > mode. But when I disable this channel, Linux generates a /dev/ide/host1 > > > > entry - No host0 entry is there. Sure it works - but sucks, too! > > > > (Generates a very unstable feeling in me ...) > > > > > > The "host0" entry isn't shown, because it is disabled. But to say > > > "when I disable this channel, Linux generates a /dev/ide/host1" isn't > > > correct, and implies a problem where there isn't. The correct way to > > > describe this is: > > > "host0" is my primary onboard IDE controller. It might not appear if I > > > disable it. > > > "host1" is my secondary onboard IDE controller. It has the same name > > > whether or not I disable the primary. > > > > No!!!! On the Althon box: > > - nothing disabled in BIOS: > > /dev/ide/host0/bus0/ - on-board primary channel > > /deV/ide/host0/bus1/ - on-board secondary channel > > > > - when I disable the primary channel I get this: > > /dev/ide/host1/bus1/ - on-board secondary channel > > > > So as you can see it moves!! From host0 to host1! > > Oh, fuck! Now I see why you're complaining. Yeah, that is busted. I > don't know why this happens. It may be due to some deep and subtle > workings of the IDE code. > > Andre: any idea why this is happening? > > > > And this is a Feature[tm]. It means that tomorrow when a shiny new > > > drive arrives, you can plug it into your primary channel and enable > > > the channel in the BIOS. You can then boot without having to fix your > > > /etc/fstab, because /dev/ide/host1 is still pointing to the same > > > devices. > > > > Yes that is a really cool advantage I now for months (over a year!)! > > But here is the next example again: > > > > The K6 server (on-board ALI-Aladin-5 + PCI-Card Promisse controller): > > > > /dev/ide/host0/bus0/ - on-board primary channel > > /dev/ide/host0/bus1/ - on-board secondary channel > > /dev/ide/host2/bus0/ - Promisse primary channel > > /dev/ide/host2/bus1/ - Promisse secondarychannel > > > > So where is host1 ?????? > > Good question. I wonder what's taking up the "host1" slot? > > Regards, > > Richard.... > Permanent: rgooch@atnf.csiro.au > Current: rgooch@ras.ucalgary.ca k33p h4ck1n6 Ren? -- Ren? Rebe (Registered Linux user: #248718 ) eMail: rene.rebe@gmx.net rene@rocklinux.org Homepage: http://www.tfh-berlin.de/~s712059/index.html Anyone sending unwanted advertising e-mail to this address will be charged $25 for network traffic and computing time. By extracting my address from this message or its header, you agree to these terms. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/